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Probably the most pettiest thing you will ever see me post.....
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Right Charities....
Religious Charities.
I think everyone knows I hate religion but obviously charities are a good thing....
is it wrong for me to not give to a charity because its religious? I would rather give to one that isnt based on a faifth.
Now I know its stupid and I know part of giving to charity is to make yourself feel better, But i've always thought that the reason their doing charity work is to try and appease some sky god and that winds me up and I don't want to encourage it!!!!! Any thoughts?
Religious Charities.
I think everyone knows I hate religion but obviously charities are a good thing....
is it wrong for me to not give to a charity because its religious? I would rather give to one that isnt based on a faifth.
Now I know its stupid and I know part of giving to charity is to make yourself feel better, But i've always thought that the reason their doing charity work is to try and appease some sky god and that winds me up and I don't want to encourage it!!!!! Any thoughts?
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I disagree completely with your view below,
'when I give them money it confirms that their beliefs are correct and encourages them'!!
So you would always give to a non Christian charity over a religious one all because you think it confirms that their beliefs are true. That is a load of old bull!!, it doesn't confirm nothing. All it confirms is fellow compassion for man regardless of faith.
'when I give them money it confirms that their beliefs are correct and encourages them'!!
So you would always give to a non Christian charity over a religious one all because you think it confirms that their beliefs are true. That is a load of old bull!!, it doesn't confirm nothing. All it confirms is fellow compassion for man regardless of faith.
2 points Rev Ive always hated religion and have never shyed away from that fact so please feel free to use me as an example any time you want as someone who comes on here and does actively hate it. In case your wondering why i'm still on here then the simple answer is knowldege. Waldo, Jake, Naomi and others know so much that I love hearing what they have to say.
Puzzfuzz - maybe my comment was wrong but I cant quite express what i mean properly......
how bout this:
when people say "isnt religion wonderful it does so much work for charity" THAT'S what I hate thats the encouragment bit. I would much rather give to someone who is doing it purely for the benefit of fellow men. Rather than someone who can then try throw it in my face why their particular brand of religion is good and then it maybe confirms their beliefs.
apologies if that doesn't make sense
Puzzfuzz - maybe my comment was wrong but I cant quite express what i mean properly......
how bout this:
when people say "isnt religion wonderful it does so much work for charity" THAT'S what I hate thats the encouragment bit. I would much rather give to someone who is doing it purely for the benefit of fellow men. Rather than someone who can then try throw it in my face why their particular brand of religion is good and then it maybe confirms their beliefs.
apologies if that doesn't make sense
Why not look at which is better organised and likely to use your money most effectively - whatever their reasons for doing it?
Take four examples.
Person A is a good person who is running a charity because he wants to help. Give him £1 and he'll save 2 lives.
Person B is a Christian who is running a charity because he thinks he'll score brownie points with God. Give him a £1 and he'll save 5 lives.
Person C is a wannabe who is only running a charity to get famous and become a pop star. Give him £1 and he'll save 10 lives.
Person D is a nasty piece of work who is only running a charity to spite his ex. Give him £1 and he'll save 20 lives.
Where does your money go? The one who has the most laudable motive according to your moral code? Or the one who'll save most lives? Basing that decision on your own hang-ups or ideology strikes me as a bit selfish when lives are at stake.
What I think you've misunderstood, sherminator, is that by and large a religious charity differs from a normal one only in its reason for doing it, not the work it does.
Take four examples.
Person A is a good person who is running a charity because he wants to help. Give him £1 and he'll save 2 lives.
Person B is a Christian who is running a charity because he thinks he'll score brownie points with God. Give him a £1 and he'll save 5 lives.
Person C is a wannabe who is only running a charity to get famous and become a pop star. Give him £1 and he'll save 10 lives.
Person D is a nasty piece of work who is only running a charity to spite his ex. Give him £1 and he'll save 20 lives.
Where does your money go? The one who has the most laudable motive according to your moral code? Or the one who'll save most lives? Basing that decision on your own hang-ups or ideology strikes me as a bit selfish when lives are at stake.
What I think you've misunderstood, sherminator, is that by and large a religious charity differs from a normal one only in its reason for doing it, not the work it does.
good point Sweep like i said is this petty......
whilst i think your point is excellent I can't imagine anyone who really studies the group they are bout to hand over paltry sums of money?
But still if group A religious charity saves 10 lives
and group B non religious charity saves 10 lives then I will go out of my way to give it to the non religious.
whilst i think your point is excellent I can't imagine anyone who really studies the group they are bout to hand over paltry sums of money?
But still if group A religious charity saves 10 lives
and group B non religious charity saves 10 lives then I will go out of my way to give it to the non religious.
"But still if group A religious charity saves 10 lives and group B non religious charity saves 10 lives then I will go out of my way to give it to the non religious."
i suspect if a religious person said that they would 'go out of their way' to only give to religious cahrities there woud be riots in this ection of ab.
i suspect if a religious person said that they would 'go out of their way' to only give to religious cahrities there woud be riots in this ection of ab.
The only issue of consequence is whether the money goes to provide tangiable benefits to the target audience. If 10% is going to be creamed off so that in addition to tents and clothing Charity X can give out bibles, they can do something anotomically unlikely to themselves (see these tosswits from the US for a jaw-dropping example of inanity and crassness: http://www.faithcomes...y-hope-audio-bibles).
There are plenty of secular charities that one can give to if one feels strongly about that. Personally, I think it's more important to get the maximum value from donations to the needy in the form of actual practical aid and will donate to whomever is able to do that.
There are plenty of secular charities that one can give to if one feels strongly about that. Personally, I think it's more important to get the maximum value from donations to the needy in the form of actual practical aid and will donate to whomever is able to do that.
Keyplus, //Try finding an atheist charity//
My pleasure,
http://www.humanism.o...nists-doing/charities
//After all concept of charity does not exist without concept of religion.//
Yes - it does.
'Knowing how we evolved - in no one's image and to no one's plan - may be scary to some, but we humans can be kind, loving and moral beings without deluding ourselves that someone made us that way'. (Susan Blackmore).
My pleasure,
http://www.humanism.o...nists-doing/charities
//After all concept of charity does not exist without concept of religion.//
Yes - it does.
'Knowing how we evolved - in no one's image and to no one's plan - may be scary to some, but we humans can be kind, loving and moral beings without deluding ourselves that someone made us that way'. (Susan Blackmore).
Care to back up your rather bold (and factually incorrect - go and find out who the single largest group donating on the micro-loans site Kiva is, for a start) claims with some evidence, SkyPlus? I mean, I know you can't, but it'd be nice if you'd at least pretend to have some actual facts to back up your assertations.
Hey everyone - Skyplus is a transvestite. I said it, so it must be true.
Or, to put it another way (specifically Christopher Hitchens' way); "That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence".
Hey everyone - Skyplus is a transvestite. I said it, so it must be true.
Or, to put it another way (specifically Christopher Hitchens' way); "That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence".
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