Help please!!! Undecipherable place name on 1851!!!!

[dothawkes31]

Could someone please look on Find My Past to see how the transcribers have deciphered a birthplace in Yorkshire?
The entry is as follows:
1851 Cheshire
RG10; Piece: 3908; Folio: 22; Page: 36;
Elizabeth Hewitt aged 47 born @ 1804 wife of Richard Hewitt living in Appleton, Cheshire.

I have Found her on 1861 and it just says Yorkshire and I think on the 1871 it says born warrington but not 100% THAT one is the same Elizabeth Hewitt.
Ancestry.co.uk have transcribed the birth place given as Howtedi Yorkshire, which is clearly isn't!! But I can't decipher what it does say in the return.

I just wondered if Find My Past had made a better guess!!!!

[Rose Maybud]

Erm, you seem to have struck a funny one there.

The only Richard and ELizabeth Hewitt that FindMyPast came up with is this combination:
Richard Hewitt age 49 born 1802 labourer builder born Loton Lancs
Elizabeth Hewitt age 47 occupation = 'undecipherable', born Loton Lancs
Mary Hewitt, dau, age 6, scholar born 1845 Burtonwood Lancs.

Googling Loton, the ever helpful 'Do you mean' suggested Lowton, Lancs.

The address was 9 Bk Mount St, Manchester.

Ref HO107, 2223 folio 0 page 0 - and clicking on 'view original' seems to make it hang.

I'll try again shortly to view the original.

[Rose Maybud]

I've just had another go at viewing the original, and what you get is a typed transcript made by Manchester & Lancashire FHS. Never come across that before. Perhaps the original is in such a bad way it wouldn't help anyone?

[dothawkes31]

Sorry it's Richard and Sarah Hewitt living in Appleton Cheshire in 1851, thier daughter is Elizabeth aged 10. I've looked at it on ancestry it's just so hard to read the enumerators scrawl!! Wonder why Find My past haven't got it transcribed? Can you put that reference set in their search?
Thanks for taking the time to look anyway x

[jackthehat]

Looking at the individual letter formation, it could be HOWDEN. The enumerator has an odd way of forming his 'n's' at the end of words (there are a couple of examples above and below). It certainly looks as if there is a 'cross-bar' for a letter 't', but it could be anything on the page, in all honesty.

[Rose Maybud]

Just tried again - must do better!!

Searched for Elizabeth this time and found them as you say, in Appleton. Richard's wife was Sarah age 47 etc. The transcriber has put Horoctede. Looking at the original, definitely Yorkshire for the county. As for the place, definitely begins with H! Horoctede follows the shape of the word pretty well, could be How..., Hew...
the ascender where the transcriber has put t isn't as high as an h, so could be a t and there is a bit of an ascender at the end but as the edge of the box was fast approaching, who knows. There is a dot outside the box, which could be a blemish, or could be the dot on the i - other examples of i are well spaced from their dots elsewhere on the page.
That's the best I can do for now - I don't know Yorkshire - haven't been north of Reading for about 15 years! but will have a ponder later and post again in the unlikely event of a brilliant idea.

Good luck!

[craft1948]

There is a Howden in Yorkshire.........

[craft1948]

This is from the genealogist.....1851

Living at Stockton Heath, Appleton, Cheshire

Richard Hewitt born 1811 High Leigh, Cheshire....Inn Keeper and Tailor
Sarah born 1804 Howden, Yorkshire
Ann born 1833 Walton, Cheshire
John born 1835 Walton, Cheshire
Joseph born 1838 Appleton, Cheshire
Elizabeth born 1841 Appleton, Cheshire
William born 1844 Appleton, Cheshire

[jackthehat]

Damn, I'm good.............! :D

[dothawkes31]

Great thanks to all, i tried to make Howden fit but it didn't seem to want to with the odd bit crossing over the end of the where born column.
It's brilliant that I have Yorkshire ancestry on my Dad's side, they are all solid cheshire yeoman stock going back into the 1600s with one Welsh continegent!!!
My Mum's side were all Yorkshire or Lincolnshire born but none from East Yorkshire, I'll be tracking them down tonight now.

[dothawkes31]

Botheration!!! Sarah was his second wife and not the biological mother of my great great grandmother, Richard;'s first wife Susannah died in 1840, I assume during or shortly after my great great garndmothers birth in Q3 1840, as the birth and Susannah's death are both registered in that same quarter, Richard then married Sarah Tune the following year and had a son william. Richard and Susannah possibly married in Farnworth nr Widnes in 1830, which means she was probably a Lancashire Lass and not from Yorkshire like sarah Tune,

[Rose Maybud]

Unsure whether to say 'well spotted' or 'bad luck'! Looked on FindMyPast for Susannah's baptism 1790-1810: none relevant.

[dothawkes31]

Cheers Rose, I'm still working on her surname, process of elimination i reckon. lol