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Land theft
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a neighbor has grubbed out a 15foot + hedgrow; destroying trees etc. and filled the land with hardcore & tarmac to increase a car park on his commercial plot.
Short of going to court, I would rather bill him for the land, as it's ruined now. He knows that land is mine etc.
The bill: How should I word it ?
Short of going to court, I would rather bill him for the land, as it's ruined now. He knows that land is mine etc.
The bill: How should I word it ?
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Consider a prosecution for criminal damage initially. You can't just Bill him you need him to agree to purchase, cover costs conveyancing etc. Alternatively just go and fence it off at your boundary, going right over the top of his tarmace etc. Then if he removesyour fence prosecute for criminal damage. Mak sure you are correct though.
tried that R1Geezer...he removes the fencing. For me to access the land would mean destroying the thin vein of hedgerow left, police & aggro. The cops do say it's a civil matter.
buildersmate....Y can't I just send a bill; he can always dispute it or reach a settlement.....at least that would open communication. I fear Courts dont appreciate the value of land, especially agricultural now commercialised.
It's stolen property (even the cops ignore that - with papers of proof). He continues with another field that's not mine (owner abroad).
buildersmate....Y can't I just send a bill; he can always dispute it or reach a settlement.....at least that would open communication. I fear Courts dont appreciate the value of land, especially agricultural now commercialised.
It's stolen property (even the cops ignore that - with papers of proof). He continues with another field that's not mine (owner abroad).
Still no such thing as theft of land. It's not a criminal offence. However, if he has destroyed things on your land then it is criminal damage. Buildersmate and R1Geezer are both is correct. If you bill him it will mean nothing without a agreed contract of some sort to buy the land. If you want to open communications then just get a solicitors letter sent to him asking him to resinstate your land as it was otherwise court action will be taken. I presume you have spoken to him about it though.
Excellent advice.
Do you also appreciate, T, that the boundaries between two parcels of land are regarded as 'General Boundaries' by the Land Registry (unless the boundary has been determined exactly by a prescribed process called determining the Exact Boundaries). So boundaries are a common-law issue.
I don't doubt you are right in what you say - and that 'true' boundary (which would be upheld if it went to court) will probably be determined as the centre of the hedge.
Do you also appreciate, T, that the boundaries between two parcels of land are regarded as 'General Boundaries' by the Land Registry (unless the boundary has been determined exactly by a prescribed process called determining the Exact Boundaries). So boundaries are a common-law issue.
I don't doubt you are right in what you say - and that 'true' boundary (which would be upheld if it went to court) will probably be determined as the centre of the hedge.
Unless a fence or other boundary has been in place on his side of the hedge. for a certain amount of time which has been accepted as the boundary. Think it's ten years nowadays, but it's been complicated by new regulations. My neighbour said our boundary was the middle of our hedge which was actually located our side of a fence which had been in place for at least 30 years.
Hi, it seems that you are asking for advice and not prepared to take it.
This must be settled legally, If you decide to sell your house in the furure this will come out in the open and could cause problems with the potential buyer.
You must consult a solicitor and let him deel with this, otherwise you will have to pay the consequences at a later date.
This must be settled legally, If you decide to sell your house in the furure this will come out in the open and could cause problems with the potential buyer.
You must consult a solicitor and let him deel with this, otherwise you will have to pay the consequences at a later date.
make certain of your boundaries, deeds/ land registry etc, then ask for about a ton of manure to be delivered to your piece of land ( the bit in question).
This could upset his business and I don't think you will have done anything wrong.
(Just make sure it's not piled high enough to slip, or be washed onto his genuine land by the rain etc).
Rusting hulks of scrap cars are a less revolting alternative.....
what does the business do?
This could upset his business and I don't think you will have done anything wrong.
(Just make sure it's not piled high enough to slip, or be washed onto his genuine land by the rain etc).
Rusting hulks of scrap cars are a less revolting alternative.....
what does the business do?
To add to what others have said – some neighbours engaged in boundary disputes have spent hundreds of thousands on legal fees – not necessarily being successful.
I have the land registry plots for my house & garden, which are supposed to show the ‘legal’ boundary of the property. Reproduced A4 size, the boundary line is over 10mm thick – it would be no exaggeration to say that at life size, the thickness of this line would be well over 1 metre. In theory, the legal boundary could lie anywhere within this 1 metre line.
My house is an end terrace – in reality, I would expect a court to up-hold the location of the boundary fence on three sides of my property. With regards the precise location of the boundary between my neighbours property, is it somewhat easier than some to determine this, since the property is a staggered terrace – and one need only extend the brick line of the house to locate the precise division.
That said, should either side relocate the dividing fence – then after a number of years, this would legally become the boundary, indicating who owns what space/land.
Therefore as others have said, you need to get legal resolution of this matter – but it is by no means a simple task.
I have the land registry plots for my house & garden, which are supposed to show the ‘legal’ boundary of the property. Reproduced A4 size, the boundary line is over 10mm thick – it would be no exaggeration to say that at life size, the thickness of this line would be well over 1 metre. In theory, the legal boundary could lie anywhere within this 1 metre line.
My house is an end terrace – in reality, I would expect a court to up-hold the location of the boundary fence on three sides of my property. With regards the precise location of the boundary between my neighbours property, is it somewhat easier than some to determine this, since the property is a staggered terrace – and one need only extend the brick line of the house to locate the precise division.
That said, should either side relocate the dividing fence – then after a number of years, this would legally become the boundary, indicating who owns what space/land.
Therefore as others have said, you need to get legal resolution of this matter – but it is by no means a simple task.
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