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anonymous voting?
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is voting in General Elections truly anonymous? I know that when you go in to cast your vote no-one can see how you've marked your card. But hasn't the card got some kind of serial number on from which people could discover some time later which way you voted?
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.Yes the flaw in the logic is this bit isn't it
only a court can open the seals on the counterfoils and match the two parts
Exactly how difficult would it be for MI5 to get a court order to do this for say BNP voters or Sinn Fein voters in NI and have the court action kept secret?
Not difficult at all I'd think.
Not a fan of these sorts of organisations but we should be able to have true confidence that this can't happen
only a court can open the seals on the counterfoils and match the two parts
Exactly how difficult would it be for MI5 to get a court order to do this for say BNP voters or Sinn Fein voters in NI and have the court action kept secret?
Not difficult at all I'd think.
Not a fan of these sorts of organisations but we should be able to have true confidence that this can't happen
That's a common myth(?) surprising often from mates of ex-cops/MI5 officiers/government officers etc.
All myth makers claim a figure of responsibility to give them credibility.
Ever seen a viirus-hoax? they normanlly start "microsoft today announced a new virus that they can't fix - ya de yah"
Microsoft is named there similarly to give it credibility.
Now I'm not saying it doesn't happen but I've never seen any credible evidence that it does.
I think it could happen and I think we ought to have the confidence that it doesn't.
If they ran an election like that in Afghanistan no one would vote because they'd be too suspicious so I don't accept the argument on the web page that it's for our protection.
It's not necessary in other countries it shouldn't be necessary here
All myth makers claim a figure of responsibility to give them credibility.
Ever seen a viirus-hoax? they normanlly start "microsoft today announced a new virus that they can't fix - ya de yah"
Microsoft is named there similarly to give it credibility.
Now I'm not saying it doesn't happen but I've never seen any credible evidence that it does.
I think it could happen and I think we ought to have the confidence that it doesn't.
If they ran an election like that in Afghanistan no one would vote because they'd be too suspicious so I don't accept the argument on the web page that it's for our protection.
It's not necessary in other countries it shouldn't be necessary here
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I remember this chap
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Rusbridger
once writing, I think in the Guardian, about how he'd previously had the job of reviewing voting slips to pick out the communists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Rusbridger
once writing, I think in the Guardian, about how he'd previously had the job of reviewing voting slips to pick out the communists.
Yes but they put two and two together. When you get these doorstep cavassers they attempt to get your voting preference.
When you cast your vote at the polling station you have checkers outside to see who has actually voted. Therefore if you haven't voted and had shown a preference for that party expect a home call to take you to the polling station.
When you cast your vote at the polling station you have checkers outside to see who has actually voted. Therefore if you haven't voted and had shown a preference for that party expect a home call to take you to the polling station.
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foxy
the point is;
if you give your details to the teller at the door, all they can do is check you off against a list of their expected supporters and chase up any that haven't turned up. They won't know who you voted for and shouldn't ask you.
when you give your details to the official clerk they give you a personally coded voting slip so someone could, in theory, take that voting slip later and identify whose vote it is.
the point is;
if you give your details to the teller at the door, all they can do is check you off against a list of their expected supporters and chase up any that haven't turned up. They won't know who you voted for and shouldn't ask you.
when you give your details to the official clerk they give you a personally coded voting slip so someone could, in theory, take that voting slip later and identify whose vote it is.
H Zeuhl, I understand what you are saying but my point is that will only happen IF you give the tellers your card or any of your information which you don't have to, thats your choice. Yes they could possibly chase you up, but only if you let them have what they want. As I said before, the government could in theory match up your slip when the ballot box is opened, but don't forget when the ballot box is taken to be counted, they are all tipped onto a table with hundreds or in some cases thousands of others. Do you think they would bother to search through all these hundreds of bits of paper to match them up to see how you had voted? I have actually taken part in the counting process and on the night, you don't have time to do anything but count. There are also people watching you to make sure all is above board, so if they were going to do any "matching" it would have to be once all the ballot papers have been taken away. Still possible in theory I know but how likely I don't know.
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