Can a hotelier, in Scotland, charge you double if he thinks you have smoked in your bedroom and can he take the extra charge directly from your debit card without permission?

[acquirius]

[Davethedog]

You were in the Hotel not in the open air - being by a window doesn't count if you are inside the hotel.

You obviously know you were in the wrong (as per the law/rules) Draconian or not by taking the booking you have agreed to abide by the rules and you didn't.

[acquirius]

Really? Davethedog?
Were you there, where was I?

[Davethedog]

" I smoked outside my room, in the open air, standing beside my open window"

So you were outside the hotel I apologise if i'm wrong but your quote doesn't say you were outside the hotel does it.

No I wasn't there but I didn't post my "predicament" on the internet Did I?

[mollykins]

was it jsut an open window, or a balcony? that could make the difference.

[Androcles]

Acquirius,

Having read through the thread, I wonder if the hotelier is treating the entire hotel environs - within the curtilage of the property as being "in the hotel" - if he is then standing beside your room may be "in" as far as they are concerned?

[Whickerman]

Here's my explanation as to why you were charged double. You smoked at the window, which was open. The smoke went inside. I'm guessing the room was non-smoking or this wouldn't be an issue. In practice, the room is let to the next person as non-smoking too. Whether you agree with this or not is irrelevant, but I for one won't stay in a room that smells of smoke (it sets of a lung complaint and I won't take the risk). I have been in hotels where people have used balconys as smoking areas and I have refused the rooms - smokers can rarely smell the residue, but non-smokers can. Therefore his next guests could be well within their rights to refuse that room, he's out a night's rental and he recoups it as a matter of 'insurance' from the previous tenant.

[annie0000]

You mentioned you were asked to leave- was this because of the smoking? - is there any chance that the T&Cs were in the hotel room - in the hotel guide or something? If you say what hotel it was maybe someone can help you with that.

[merciasounds]

you wouldn't need the mattress and carpet cleaning that's taking things too far. There should be some sort of warning somewhere to inform you that the management reserve the right to, blah blah blah, if you think this is excessive, write and complain. you could always leave him a bad review - there are plenty of different sites!

[acquirius]

I will be mentioning it on review sites.
I just wanted to know if his moves were lawful, not looking for a lecture on smoking.

[dothawkes31]

I don't think he needs a law to back him up, they're his premises and he's entitled to charge for what he sees as a breach of your contract when you took the room. I would imagine he is a good business man and knows that the T & C were made avaolable to you at some point during the transaction / stay.