Nepotism and Job Vacancies.

[Bbbananas]

Just imagine for a minute that a vacancy within a firm is only advertised interally, knowing that no internal employees have the right qualifications or experience, and that said vacancy is not advertised externally on websites or within job centres....

And say that the Manager gives the 31st of May as the deadline for applications - bearing in mind the internal ad went up on the noticeboard on the 26th and we have a bank holiday weekend imminent....

And let's suppose that the Manager fully intends to give the post anyway to a close family member....

Would this be illegal? Or just a little(!) out of order/ cheeky / nepotistic (or whatever the term), but not unlawful?
Comments would be appreciated.

[lardhelmet]

He probably works for the local council - that's how it works around here all the time.

[rowanwitch]

Depends if the organisation has a published equality policy...... if it did there might be scope to argue Some organisations have policies about close relatives working together... Its lousy when this happens and its not just family get parachuted into jobs, I've lost out in the past to friends of managers as well

[DrFilth]

happens a lot

[Bbbananas]

But not illegal then? In terms of Employment Law?

[DrFilth]

employment laws are broken all the time
example, start at a job, given 2 year contract, when your 2 years are up they find that they are short of work. so they have to let you go.
4 weeks later would you like to come back and work for us, same job
same contract if you keep your nose clean and work hard , never have any time off you will get a permanant job after 2 year contract.
when you are there another 2 years they run short of work again .

[Bbbananas]

Oh well, better get used to the idea of working with The Devil's Daughter then....!

(Actually, to be fair the girl herself is a nice lass and will be ok for the job - nothing against the girl personally - but fellow co-workers are up in arms about it all and I wanted to know how it all stood legally.)

[DrFilth]

have you not got a union rep you can talk with ?

[Bbbananas]

I don't personally want to get involved - don't want any work sh1te landing on my doorstep - been there, done that, it all backfires... But I do have a feeling some co-workers may take the matter further.

[cherrychapstick]

you could still apply for the job if you want to though the deadline is 31st as long as the applications are in by then,or anyone else that wants to apply ,if he does give it to his daughter after this the people who apply for it can ask him why they weren't accepted for the job and he would need to give them an explanation ?

[Bbbananas]

The point is that it is only being advertised internally, anyone else who gets to hear about it has the grand total of 3 days in which to get their application in. I thought (a) it had to be externally advertised also (NHS post) and (b) there had to be a minimum time of 2 weeks before the application deadline.

I don't want the job personally - I'm quite happy with mine. But if this girl gets it, it will have an effect on staff morale and atmosphere.

[DrFilth]

to be honest sall i have only ever spoken up at one union meeting .
years ago they union shop steward said the firm was taking on 18 or 28 ( ?) workers for 2 year contract, then they will become permanent

i stood up and pointed out that in trafford park at fred loggs & son they had been doing this for a number of years and what would happen.

i was told i was out of order and to sit down as there are employment laws in place to stop this kind of thing.

sit down filth you are out of order.

remember my warning

sit down filth you are out of order

some friends asked why i stood up and i offered to let them speak to a friend who worked for this firm. no one listened

guess what happened for approximately the next 6 years

eventually the union put a stop to it

the deaf never see and the blind never listen

[Skyline D]

Well it's not "illegal". There's nothing in law (so far as I know) requiring you to advertise any position at all. If the employer (or an authorised representative thereof) believes that he knows the best person for a job then he can go offer them it without ever advertising a post at all. That's why people get headhunted.

It may however be against published policy, that's a wholly different matter. Presumably that would require complaint to the appropriate people within the organisation.

[Bbbananas]

Don't think it's against published policy. It's going to go ahead whatever. Just thought I'd ask if anyone knew anything about all this. Suppose you're right Skyline - people wouldn't be 'headhunted' if the whole thing was illegal.