Child's birth certificate

[vignon]

My nieces ex-partner has had their child's birth certificate altered by taking off her surname without her permission is he legally entitled to do this.
The certificate was made up with son's Christian name and both their surnames.

[RATTER15]

If he has sole custody than he can change the name by deed poll I expect but if their is joint custody I would imagine it would require both partners to agree.
I would also think that as this is a legal document it would have to have been legal to have been done at all!!

[marval]

I am not sure about this, but have a look at this link and see if it helps.

http://www.ukdps.co.u...ificateBeChanged.html

[boxtops]

Sorry but I'm not clear that I understand - you say "she", how can anyone take off the mother's name on a birth certificate?

[vignon]

This the query how did he do it because he is holding the new Birth certificate with the child's name and his surname only without permission from his mother.

[redman41]

In my opinion it is not a Legal Document, changes have to be made Officially by Deed Poll.

[RATTER15]

Who is listed as the Mother? there is something about this that sounds a bit odd!!

[carrot99]

has the mum actually touched this new certificate to check that it appears to be authentic? if it was just waved in front of her the ex-partner made have scanned in the original and amended it and printed a colour copy on a decent coloured paper.

[carrot99]

or your niece could just order a copy of her child's birth certificate for less than tenner to put her mind at rest.

[RATTER15]

A very official and genuine certificate would be very easy to produce on any PC with just a little know how.

It may not be genuine as has already been suggested.

[vignon]

carrot 99,thanks for that answer. It's a thought he's so devious.

[bednobs]

as far as i know you Can't alter birth certificates (legally) wasn't there some hoo-har about people who've had a sex change not being allowed to alter them?

[ABerrant]

As per marval's link, there are a number of circumstances that allow for changes to a birth certificate

@bednobs -
"If you are at least 18 years of age and have gender dysphoria and have been living in your acquired gender for at least two years, you can apply to the Gender Recognition Panel for a Gender Recognition Certificate, which will enable you to obtain a new birth certificate showing your new gender and name. The new birth certificate can be used as documentary evidence of your change of name thus avoiding the need for a Deed Poll."

[boxtops]

as carrott says, it's very easy to order copies of birth etc certificates, I had to do it myself a few years back, OH and I thought we'd lost ours and needed new ones, took only a couple of weeks. You can do it on-line http://www.ukofficial...irth-certificates.asp

[ABerrant]

It is generally a better idea (and cheaper) to order certificates directly from the GRO rather than intermediaries such as in boxtop's link.

http://www.direct.gov...ertificates/DG_175628

[dotty.]

When you say he has had the certificate altered I assume you don't mean the actual entry in the register office 's birth registrations book, noone can alter that. He's talking rubbish, take no notice. No registrar would remove anything from a registration especially not a childs mother's name, he's a git, tell himk to F off

[dotty.]

Hang on, what do you mean it was amde up of his christian name and both their surnames? Do you mean the child's full registered name was say, Billy Smith-Jones on the registration? Smith being his mother and Jones being his father? If that's ho9w the name was legally registered the child can use Smith or Jones or both legally.

[ABerrant]

You'd better tell the GROs that then dotty

http://www.direct.gov...birthrecord/DG_175618

[dotty.]

My Grandson is registered as B**** B******-Hawkes as his mum and dad weren't (and aren't) married, he is regsitered in school in his full name but he answers to both.

[ABerrant]

I mean tell the GROs that they cannot correct or re-register birth records.

[vignon]

Thanks everybody for your informed answers,I think I'll let his mother take over from here.