Should the unemployed

[dustypuss]

Be made to shovel snow in this kind of weather so as to earn their benifits .

[Dris]

jd -didnt mean you.
Steve and Jake well said !!
How effing demorolising if you were to come on here and read that OP if you were unemployed and then read some of the posts -shameful.

[jd_1984]

237sj - Thats a relevant point, could create a vicious cycle.

[dustypuss]

I have been on the dole and I would not hesitate to go and shovel snow from footpathes so as to help the less fourtunet like the old so that can get about without fear of falling and ending up in hospital .

[oranger]

Yes, 100%.

[Dris]

Yeah and Sany -my husband was laid off due to the foot and mouth for a year and instead of claiming (as it was nigh on impossible as he wasnt in the system as he hadnt ever claimed) he was picked up at 6 in the morning in this weather to plant in the fields for a pittance.So I know all about all facets of unemployment -he had a job to go back to.My daughter didnt each time so had to spend her time at the job centre and on line and scraping about for notices in windows -she didnt have money to spend on luxuries -I bailed her out each time-so I was working to help her get a job.
Yip -get them on CS to do it but not peope who have worked and are struggling to gain other employment -thats a disgrace !!

[Dris]

im outta this thread -different planet lmao at some of you -you really dont get it do you?
Whats to stop a neighbour clearing a path -no lets stigmatise the unemployed -go ahead-post in your abject ignorance.How may truthfully have lifted a shovel in the last week to help anyone if you could?? If you lie youre only lying to yourself..
I have.ive also got medicine for my neighbour as she has the flu -ive also moved her wheely bin without being asked -ive also done other things like shovelling snow-i wouldnt have ever broadcast them publicly as I think its what any decent person would do and I certainly dont seek plaudits but I feel i have to make a point

[Answerprancer]

I'm totally with you on this Dris and I too know what it's like to be on the receiving end.
Unemployment is miserable and demeaning - not the "life of Riley" that some people like to see it as.

[Arksided]

A sage suggestion Dustypuss, I think it would also be beneficial if they could mark it down on a CV as recently worked (not sure of terminology) but something other than 'forced to earn' benefits.

[oranger]

When i retired 3 years ago after working all sorts of silly hours for 47 yrs i went to my local volunteer centre to put something back into my community, only to find that the young and fit unemployed, only to eager to work for nothing as a stepping stone to paid employment. Speaking from this experience 99% of people offered this or any other so called gladly accept rather than sit about all day.I worked alongside some of them and all were grafters.

[237SJ]

So how would we discriminate between the lazy unemployed and people who are genuinely seeking work but live in an unployment blackspot such as Cornwall? Would there be a means test to determine their ability to shovel snow and whether they deserve to or not?

[Barmaid]

I think that's a fair point 237SJ. How do we determine who are the workshy layabouts?

I am living with someone who has put his heart and soul into getting a job and is extremely low at the fact that he has been out of work for almost a year. It is almost a full time occupation in what he is doing to attempt to obtain work. Miserable and demeaning is how AP described it. I would completely agree.

[oranger]

Bit extreme that, snafu.

[jd_1984]

Snafu03 - Cue the inevitable onslaught!Lol

[Snafu03]

I was a bit harsh there. Maybe the bullet should be means tested.

[sandyRoe]

Should the members of the government who fail areas and leave them unemployment blackspots not have a place in front of the firing squads too?

[cazzz1975]

Im quite happy with the community "pay back" scheme doing the work.