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A phrase I heard this mornig,,,We have a generation now, of Thatchers children???
I wonder, did the Iron Lady instill in them greed and a non-caring attitude?
She was very much in favour of Yuppiness as I recall, maybe she didn't
what's your thoughts on Mrs Ts legacy?
She was very much in favour of Yuppiness as I recall, maybe she didn't
what's your thoughts on Mrs Ts legacy?
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Mrs T. had the balls to recover the Falklands even though the US didn't like the idea. Blair or Brown would have gone whingeing to the UN.
She also broke the grip of the major unions who had turned us into "the Poor Man of Europe".
Working with Reagan and Bush she brought about the end of the cold war. I am of the generation that lived with the threat of nuclear war.
She also broke the grip of the major unions who had turned us into "the Poor Man of Europe".
Working with Reagan and Bush she brought about the end of the cold war. I am of the generation that lived with the threat of nuclear war.
You may well be correct, bobbi. However, that is not my point.
To a greater or lesser degree I am a critic of all the Prime Ministers (including Mrs Thatcher) that I have lived under as an adult, and of a few that went before my time. None of them entirely met my requirements and the policies adopted by some positively harmed me. I just cannot understand why it is that Mrs Thatcher seems to be the only PM on the receiving end of such vitriol.
I have purposely tried to avoid comparisons on this thread as we all have our views on the different Premiers that have come and gone. They have all made their fair share of good and bad decisions. But only Mrs T. seems to attract such vitriol.
To a greater or lesser degree I am a critic of all the Prime Ministers (including Mrs Thatcher) that I have lived under as an adult, and of a few that went before my time. None of them entirely met my requirements and the policies adopted by some positively harmed me. I just cannot understand why it is that Mrs Thatcher seems to be the only PM on the receiving end of such vitriol.
I have purposely tried to avoid comparisons on this thread as we all have our views on the different Premiers that have come and gone. They have all made their fair share of good and bad decisions. But only Mrs T. seems to attract such vitriol.
If it's any consolation NJ I've had quite a go at Heath. Nor did anyone seem to have a good word for Wilson at the time. Of course in this day and age you can't come on TV, light up your pipe and talk down to the electorate. "The pound in your pocket, or purse, or bank, will not be affected". Still remember that!
And in fact I’ve just been reading the report (British Social Attitudes).
It centres on a survey that suggests that public opinion is now far more closely aligned to Mrs Thatcher’s core beliefs than they were when she left office. Among other things many adults now believe that economic inequality is down to individual laziness on one hand and hard work on the other. It also suggests people are more likely to oppose rises in benefits and disproportionate taxation for the better off.
Of course we can only speculate why this should be, but it coincides with the end of a lengthy period where hard work has, to a degree, been positively frowned upon and success seemed to be a dirty word.
As always, people need to be careful what they wish for.
It centres on a survey that suggests that public opinion is now far more closely aligned to Mrs Thatcher’s core beliefs than they were when she left office. Among other things many adults now believe that economic inequality is down to individual laziness on one hand and hard work on the other. It also suggests people are more likely to oppose rises in benefits and disproportionate taxation for the better off.
Of course we can only speculate why this should be, but it coincides with the end of a lengthy period where hard work has, to a degree, been positively frowned upon and success seemed to be a dirty word.
As always, people need to be careful what they wish for.
I don’t quite agree, SP.
I cannot recall widespread protests being held against Blair (with the possible exception of those against the invasion of Iraq). I don’t recall reading anywhere that there are hopes that he dies a long and painful death (which I have read on AB directed against Mrs. T.). I don’t see vitriol directed against Blair even just three years after he left office (in fact, so invisible has he been, I don’t see anything directed against him as nobody seems to know what he’s up to). And I certainly cannot envisage such hatred being directed towards him in twenty years time. In fact, I’d be surprised if anybody even remembers who he is by then. And yet it is arguable that he changed the face of this country (not for the better) to a far greater degree.
No, the feelings against Mrs T are entrenched, sometimes personal and (seemingly) everlasting and I find it remarkable that people can blame her for today’s ills when her tenure ended more than twenty years ago.
I cannot recall widespread protests being held against Blair (with the possible exception of those against the invasion of Iraq). I don’t recall reading anywhere that there are hopes that he dies a long and painful death (which I have read on AB directed against Mrs. T.). I don’t see vitriol directed against Blair even just three years after he left office (in fact, so invisible has he been, I don’t see anything directed against him as nobody seems to know what he’s up to). And I certainly cannot envisage such hatred being directed towards him in twenty years time. In fact, I’d be surprised if anybody even remembers who he is by then. And yet it is arguable that he changed the face of this country (not for the better) to a far greater degree.
No, the feelings against Mrs T are entrenched, sometimes personal and (seemingly) everlasting and I find it remarkable that people can blame her for today’s ills when her tenure ended more than twenty years ago.
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