Dris/Horseshoes - You two have had your fun at my expense but, hey, I can live with that - I do have a sense of humour. I have no worries about being rumbled - it's just that the firm i work for has, shall we say, a mixed reputation and sometimes it is better not to be associated with it (even though I have worked here over 30 years). I hadn't read the thread from jem properly and jumped in with both feet - another of my frailties, i'm afraid. I'm glad someone has taken a shine to me on this site - it's only taken 15 months!!! Antway haven't you heard of the Xanadu plant and the Zabadak tree?