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Point taken, but I think the law has become a joke in the so called Britain, did you hear about that Iraqi in Blackburn & the sentence he got for killing a 12yr old, they wanted to deport him but the H.R.B. thought otherwise because he was married & had a family here so it was said that it would infringe his human rights!! what about the child's rights? she had a right to live! No not frothing at the mouth but annoyed at our stupid bloody law. I'll go for some Oxy now.