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Brown as head of the IMF?
Or a greasy foreigner? - you decide...
Also. Were Cameron to veto the appointment, would that be spiteful?
Also. Were Cameron to veto the appointment, would that be spiteful?
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.Quizmaster you can't keep blaming the media .Brown admitted on several occasions he got it wrong . He got it wrong on boom/bust . He got it wrong on defence.
He got it wrong by not regulating the banks. Take your blinkers off , your leader had the guts to admit he got it wrong , pity you can't do the same.
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He got it wrong by not regulating the banks. Take your blinkers off , your leader had the guts to admit he got it wrong , pity you can't do the same.
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Modeller, as is customary with right-wingers, you failed utterly to respond to the point I actually MADE above. Did I say there - or anywhere else - that Brown had never got anything wrong? I did not; indeed, it's a rare individual who could claim any such thing.
Let me repeat what I DID say and see whether you can reply sensibly.
When I wrote the phrase, "being considered for the post", I was suggesting that, in world economic circles - ie people who actually KNOW what economics is all about - Brown is still credited with having a major hand in preventing a world recession from becoming a world depression in 2008. (Remember, that was a time when the Tories hadn't a policy on ANYTHING, never mind a solution or even part-solition to the world's money problems!)
So, the fact that Britain's gutter-press and its readers dismiss Brown whilst people actually in-the-know do not is quite significant. Do you imagine they have no idea what Britain's current financial state IS?
Let me repeat what I DID say and see whether you can reply sensibly.
When I wrote the phrase, "being considered for the post", I was suggesting that, in world economic circles - ie people who actually KNOW what economics is all about - Brown is still credited with having a major hand in preventing a world recession from becoming a world depression in 2008. (Remember, that was a time when the Tories hadn't a policy on ANYTHING, never mind a solution or even part-solition to the world's money problems!)
So, the fact that Britain's gutter-press and its readers dismiss Brown whilst people actually in-the-know do not is quite significant. Do you imagine they have no idea what Britain's current financial state IS?
modeller
Brown has not admitted on several occasions he got it wrong. He has admitted that he did not appreciate how intertwined world markets were. He is not alone, no one else did or the world (Not just Britain) wouldn't be in this situation.
Poor regulation was to blame for the banking crisis, but that had been the case long before Brown was Chancellor. He could have changed that, but Labour had become just as mermerised by the City as had the Tories before them.
Brown has not admitted on several occasions he got it wrong. He has admitted that he did not appreciate how intertwined world markets were. He is not alone, no one else did or the world (Not just Britain) wouldn't be in this situation.
Poor regulation was to blame for the banking crisis, but that had been the case long before Brown was Chancellor. He could have changed that, but Labour had become just as mermerised by the City as had the Tories before them.
QUIZMASTER Who said I was a right winger ( I voted Labour ) if you bother to read my posts you will see I often criticise all politicians especially DC . I in fact acted for Labour in several elections . However don't let that affect your predudices against anyone who dares not to follow the Labour Party line. If you and Gromit care to read all the reports in Google not just those that suit your socialistic views you might get a more balanced view. Brown told the world in advance that he was going to sell half our gold reserves . As a result at an already low price gold fell even further . Was that the action of a would be IMF leader. He then sold £3 billion at rock bottom prices. No wonder the city were aghast at his stupidity. Today that gold is worth £7 .billion. I wouldn't trust him with a piggy bank. He failed to regulate our finances despite having 13 years to do it . He got it wrong then so why should I trust him to be any better with the IMF.
He isn't the only one to admit mistakes . Today Ed Miliband admits Labour got it wrong on immigration or do you deny that as well Gromit.?
Finally let me tell you I and millions of the electorate also got it wrong whn we voted Labour . I voted for UKIP last time as I don't trust any other party to stand up for this country and certainly not this coalition.
He isn't the only one to admit mistakes . Today Ed Miliband admits Labour got it wrong on immigration or do you deny that as well Gromit.?
Finally let me tell you I and millions of the electorate also got it wrong whn we voted Labour . I voted for UKIP last time as I don't trust any other party to stand up for this country and certainly not this coalition.
Blair/Brown are not words to use in the same breath as money, in fact none of the Noo Labour stalwarts are. The IMF should be run by someone who has a good
background of financial expertise and the confidence in his ability to relate to the world leaders. This isn't exactly the Abbey National that we would entrust to Mr Brown, and I would rather we had an experienced trustworthy 'greasy' foreigner. Cameron is not being vindictive when he says he would not support Brown as candidate.
background of financial expertise and the confidence in his ability to relate to the world leaders. This isn't exactly the Abbey National that we would entrust to Mr Brown, and I would rather we had an experienced trustworthy 'greasy' foreigner. Cameron is not being vindictive when he says he would not support Brown as candidate.
Modeller,
// Today Ed Miliband admits Labour got it wrong on immigration or do you deny that as well Gromit.? //
Well yes I do. What Milliband actually said was they should have listened to public opinion more, not that they got it wrong. The nearest he came to admitting a mistake, was when he said they had underestimated the number of Poles who would come here.
He did say they had got it wrong, but he didn't mean the immigration policy, he meant they should have listened to people's concerns. That was the bit tney got wrong. Does milliband's wordes sound like an apology?
// People aren't prejudiced but people say to me look I'm worried about the pressure on my wages of people coming into this country, I'm worried about what it does to housing supply - all those issues. Now some of that is real and some of it isn't but I think you have to address not just tough immigration policy but underlying issues as well." //
// Today Ed Miliband admits Labour got it wrong on immigration or do you deny that as well Gromit.? //
Well yes I do. What Milliband actually said was they should have listened to public opinion more, not that they got it wrong. The nearest he came to admitting a mistake, was when he said they had underestimated the number of Poles who would come here.
He did say they had got it wrong, but he didn't mean the immigration policy, he meant they should have listened to people's concerns. That was the bit tney got wrong. Does milliband's wordes sound like an apology?
// People aren't prejudiced but people say to me look I'm worried about the pressure on my wages of people coming into this country, I'm worried about what it does to housing supply - all those issues. Now some of that is real and some of it isn't but I think you have to address not just tough immigration policy but underlying issues as well." //
Modeller, you suggest I should "bother to read your posts", so let me throw that right back at you. I've been around AnswerBank for nine years and contributed over 12,000 replies. In every single one of these I have been QuizmONster, not QuizmAster. Perhaps you need to read things more carefully, too, eh? (I mention it solely because there IS an AnswerBanker called Quizmaster.)
On my part, I apologise for imagining you might be a right-winger...a terrible accusation, I agree, though your obvious disaffection with Labour in this and other threads just might have had something to do with my error.
And - more to the point as regards "reading posts" - you STILL haven't answered my question. Here it is again, though I have little hope that you will respond to it. In the old html days here, I would have had it printed in red, so that you couldn't possibly miss it, but I'll just have to hope you spot it this time:-
Why is Brown sufficiently highly regarded among many world economics experts even to be in the running for the IMF post?
I haven't read a single report in Google about Brown, never mind actually just selecting ones that suit my views! Your own mistake the other day over the Latin quote you supposed was genuine shows just how dangerous it can be to take Google at face value!
On my part, I apologise for imagining you might be a right-winger...a terrible accusation, I agree, though your obvious disaffection with Labour in this and other threads just might have had something to do with my error.
And - more to the point as regards "reading posts" - you STILL haven't answered my question. Here it is again, though I have little hope that you will respond to it. In the old html days here, I would have had it printed in red, so that you couldn't possibly miss it, but I'll just have to hope you spot it this time:-
Why is Brown sufficiently highly regarded among many world economics experts even to be in the running for the IMF post?
I haven't read a single report in Google about Brown, never mind actually just selecting ones that suit my views! Your own mistake the other day over the Latin quote you supposed was genuine shows just how dangerous it can be to take Google at face value!
Quizmonster // Why is Brown sufficiently highly regarded among many world economics experts even to be in the running for the IMF post? //
You seem obsessed with that statement maybe you would supply some links to back it up. Most AB posts have said why they believe he is not suitable. I would like to see links to prove otherwise. When Brown was first made chancellor he was dubbed prudent and kept a tight rein on inflation and gave control to the bank of England. Which pleased me ( I had voted for him ) but following the gold fiasco
he seem to throw caution to the winds . He got one thing right keeping us out of the EURO which Blair would have joined but he still allowed Blair to give away half our EU rebate .
With regards Ed Miliband he did say he got it wrong but like all politians he then made excuses to explain why Labour got it wrong. That doesn't alter the fact they got it wrong. Especially as the other EU countries at the time put on restrictions but Labour didn't. Similarly with Brown he got some major things wrong and as you would expect made excuses as to why.
You seem obsessed with that statement maybe you would supply some links to back it up. Most AB posts have said why they believe he is not suitable. I would like to see links to prove otherwise. When Brown was first made chancellor he was dubbed prudent and kept a tight rein on inflation and gave control to the bank of England. Which pleased me ( I had voted for him ) but following the gold fiasco
he seem to throw caution to the winds . He got one thing right keeping us out of the EURO which Blair would have joined but he still allowed Blair to give away half our EU rebate .
With regards Ed Miliband he did say he got it wrong but like all politians he then made excuses to explain why Labour got it wrong. That doesn't alter the fact they got it wrong. Especially as the other EU countries at the time put on restrictions but Labour didn't. Similarly with Brown he got some major things wrong and as you would expect made excuses as to why.
Modeller, if you look at the actual question we're supposedly debating here, you'll see that it reads (quote): "Brown as head of the IMF?"
As well as Gromit, the questioner, various newspapers have recently printed articles along these very lines. In other words, it's "in the news" that Brown is a possible candidate for that post.
You needed a link to back up my statement that he was well-regarded by many in the economics world, so here's an extract from an article in the Independent of 15th April which you will find here: http://www.independen...er-2268146.htmlhttp:/
"Mr Brown won plaudits around the world for his response to the financial crisis and hosted a successful G20 summit in London in 2009, and is seen as a front-runner for the IMF post."
The fact that the man is a Tory-rag-inspired hate-figure in Britain does not blind international experts to the truth.
(If you need more than one link, I'm sure you'll be able to find plenty, but just using the little quote above should enable you to answer my oft-repeated question!)
As well as Gromit, the questioner, various newspapers have recently printed articles along these very lines. In other words, it's "in the news" that Brown is a possible candidate for that post.
You needed a link to back up my statement that he was well-regarded by many in the economics world, so here's an extract from an article in the Independent of 15th April which you will find here: http://www.independen...er-2268146.htmlhttp:/
"Mr Brown won plaudits around the world for his response to the financial crisis and hosted a successful G20 summit in London in 2009, and is seen as a front-runner for the IMF post."
The fact that the man is a Tory-rag-inspired hate-figure in Britain does not blind international experts to the truth.
(If you need more than one link, I'm sure you'll be able to find plenty, but just using the little quote above should enable you to answer my oft-repeated question!)
Apologies, the link failed. Let me try again http://www.independen...er-2268146.htmlhttp:/
I'm not sufficiently computer-literate to sort this out, but the whole URL is
http://www.independen...er-2268146.htmlhttp:/
It might be easier to Google Brown+independent+IMF
http://www.independen...er-2268146.htmlhttp:/
It might be easier to Google Brown+independent+IMF