How Many Gays Must God Create Before We Accept That He Wants Them Around?

[Cowtipper]

Minn. State Rep Steve Simon- a Democrat, spoke out against Republican efforts to set up a vote next year to lock a ban on gay marriage into the state constitution.

I can't believe this didn't trump Obama not talking about Osama in New York today. I felt it was more newsworthy though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMLkr8r30Ew

[Arti]

I have no problem with gay people. I've found that a lot of people who do have a problem, usually have a problem with their own sexuality. I also have no problem with someone who doesn't like homosexuality; that is their right. What puzzles me, though are the following: How can a man say that homosexuality is wrong, when he's quite happy to fantasise about two lesbians? How can a person say that homosexuality is wrong because 'sex is for procreation'? Is the person who says this, saying that they've only had sex twice (if they've only got two kids)? How can someone say that the Bible says it is wrong, so it must be. I may be wrong, but doesn't the Bible also say something like 'thou shalt not cast thy seed on the ground'? Show me a man who says he never w*nks and I'll show you a liar.
By the way, good morning all :)

[seadogg]

Is that regression to the mean Chuck?

[seadogg]

Arti, does the "problem with Gay people depend on the society you live in to some extent.
A daughter who is lesbian gets on quite well in London but we tend not to mention it in the area she came from as its a bit backwoods.

[Arti]

Absolutely, seadog! If anti-gay prejudice arises from 'ignorance' or upbringing, then exceptions have to be made.

[DeadEndStreet]

Arti
// I have no problem with gay people. I've found that a lot of people who do have a problem, usually have a problem with their own sexuality.//

wish i had a pound for every time i have heard or read that, the other one is the one sales people use, You don't want to save money.

[joggerjayne]

I think everybody should try it ... even if it's just once.

Then everyone could talk with a bit more authority.

[Arti]

Deadend: I didn't say that ALL people who have a problem with homosexuality have problems with their own. I am aware that there are people who don't like 'gayness' for reasons other than that.

[Arti]

BTW, Cowtipper, just looking at your post pic. When did Fern Britton go into US politics?

[flip_flop]

jogger - I have no inclination to stick mine up a woman's backside so certainly wouldn't want to stick it up a bloke's, and the thought of being a receiver appeals even less.

So I'll pass on trying it, even just the once.

[Cowtipper]

\\Arti
BTW, Cowtipper, just looking at your post pic. When did Fern Britton go into US politics?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fern_Britton
That's fantastic.

[joeluke]

1 in 10?

Pro gay supporters have obviously missed a zero off their calculations

1 in 100 sounds far more realistic

[joeluke]

Oops, forgot link!

http://www.dailymail....71-say-Christian.html

[Carakeel]

Yet another of the many reasons I am an atheist! Throughout my life I have had friends who are very dear to my heart who happen to be gay and many who are not gay! They are simply human beings like the rest of us, who try to make the best of their lives, like the rest of us! Nothing more, nothing less! This has nothing to do with any God, only with human beings who should have the same rights any any other!!!

[Answerprancer]

Sqad: "How is homosexuality advantageous to the human race, biologically speaking?"
We are overpopulating the world and damaging it. Biologically speaking gay people are an advantage because they are keeping this in check.

[Cowtipper]

Like the frog that switches sexes?
http://findarticles.c...s_n9_v137/ai_8784789/
That seems reasonable. I think.
BTW this isn't a bigoted post. There is a huge debate here about this here. To ban something with a state constitution means its there in perpetuity. They would have to add another amendment to fix it. Its not quite on the same level as abortion, but its pretty darn close.

[Mick-Talbot]

Arti
I have no problem with gay people. I've found that a lot of people who do have a problem, usually have a problem with their own sexuality.

***. IMO

[Cowtipper]

I've always baited homophobes with stuff like "You're hiding in the closet from yourself" but most of that is because I don't like their general attitudes towards just about everything.