Do you still like a man to be a gentleman? and a lady to be a lady?

[Bobbisox]

like giving up a seat for a lady, holding a door open etc;
daftgrandad on here always reminds me of such a person

[joeluke]

A woman should be ladylike in appearance (no tattoos or body piercings) and manner (not loud/ladette like)

[Mick-Talbot]

(no tattoos or body piercings)


you know some women , without body piercings?

[joko]

for me simple politeness is fine, but i dont like it when its an implication - no matter if unintended - that i am incapable of managing without assistance ... if i have a broken leg then help me out the car - otherwise i am a grown woman and have been able to stand up unaided since i was around 1 or whatever ...

i know what i like to eat...i can read a menu - and i can navigate the oh so complicated procedure of telling the waiter what i want...

i dont want a man to stand for me...i am an equal and dont need pointless gestures designed to imply women are somehow special and to be treated differently...

i was told off by my dad and uncle regularly when i was a kid for whistling...because its not 'ladylike'...!? ridiculous notion!
me an my sister were not given a middle name because thats not 'lady like' either apparently...!? again ridiculous.
he was utterly astonished when i changed plugs, gobsmacked if i wallpapered, amazed i could drive a van without needing 'guiding' out the road...imagine his face when i became a set builder!

a few of the simpler so-called gentlemanly things may 'seem' nice but they are not really, they are indicative of the way some in society view women...some manifest as very negative things - men only clubs, men 'taking brandy in the drawing room' while the women clean up...the list is endless...its taken years to get this far so the last thing we need is a backward step...

(no offence starbuck, just using your examples)

[Answerprancer]

Not in the 'traditional' sense - I live in the real world, not a fairytale.
I hold doors open for anyone of any sex/age but I'd only give up a seat for the elderly, disabled or anyone otherwise inconvenienced (eg. struggling with kids/heavy stuff/ill, out of it on something etc).

[LoftyLottie]

Absolutely Joko and Answerprancer. Times have changed. I am an independent woman, but still ladylik (usually). I can manage without a man in my like. Fortuntately though, I do have a lovely man in my life and have done for 40 years. As I said before men and women are different, but equal. My thoughts do not indicate that I am not a feminine lady. I am.