Listed buildings

[sherrardk]

Is there a way to find out what bits of a listed building are listed? Thanks

[Eve]

You could see if you could find any details on here...

http://list.english-heritage.org.uk/

[boxtops]

does this help? http://www.english-he...age-list-for-england/

[buildersmate]

Yes, that website is the best place to view online the Listed Entry, though my experience of the search facility (to find the damn thing in the first place) leads my to believe the search facility leaves much to be desired.
Having found the entry, the DESCRIPTION will tell you what is actually listed - though in many cases you will find that it is the whole of the building / structure.

[TonyV]

sherr all depends on grade and * rating - If building is listed then the entire property is - can you further your question - what are you trying to do?

[sherrardk]

Thanks both - it is on there but it is very general, I was expecting more detail for some reason.

[Eve]

You could try ringing them direct and hoping you get someone helpful and/or with a real interest who will give you further information.

Local council may also be an idea, they have access to the records as there can be planning/enforcement issues.

Otherwise maybe a local historical society might be able to help.

[sherrardk]

We used to rent a house in the village theta was grade 2 listed and I was just interested (bored) to find out what bits were listed (if you listened to the owners every last nail and screw was listed - think it was a cop out to stop them having to fix stuff).

[buildersmate]

What Tony says simply isn't true. I use this site quite a lot. There are many examples of (say) a single room in a historic (but otherwise unlisted) building being listed.
The quality of the narrative is very variable - seemingly dependent on verbal skills of the original Officer who constructed the listing detail. At worst you get little more than an address. Other times you get the whole nine yards of who the architect was, dates, and style of the design and construction.

[TonyV]

buildersmate - ok not going to josh with you but if you want to anything structual to a listed building you only need planning permission then?

[ChuckFickens]

I can't find my house on there, and I know it's listed.

[AlBags]

The listing covers the whole property once listed.
This means you will be required to obtain listed planning consent for any changes (even a satellite dish)
The DOE .. now http://www.heritage.c...apavilions/glstb.html will have details, and your council should have a copy.

[bushbaby_de]

Hi there,

I'm a planning officer so can give a reliable answer.

The Heritage Gateway is the newest official website which has all national and locally listed properties

http://www.heritagegateway.org.uk/gateway/

If a property is listed, it is the whole property which is listed. Anything attached to it can also then require listed building consent for alterations even if it is a more modern addition. However the listing will detail the items of specific historic value - which usually means these items cannot be touched at all, but other proposed alterations may receive listed building consent if done sympathetically.

The website can be a bit tricky to use. Its also worth remembering that the address may have changed since it was listed. Calling the planning department won't make any difference as they use the same website I just gave you. However they may be a bit more adept at using it!

[DTCwordfan]

true - my mother has a Grade 2 listed House and Dovecote...the house is generically listed but the dovecote is specifically described being a ornamental mid 18thC dovecote from Turnip Townshend's influence on garden architecture.

[boxtops]

Turnip Townshend, what a wonderful name!

[buildersmate]

Bushbaby
There are literally hundreds of entries on the Listed Buildings register where only part of a building is listed and in that case, what you say is not true - only the relevant areas are impacted by Listed Building Consent.
Here is but one example - a single room within a Boarding House at an independent school.
http://list.english-h...ngle.aspx?uid=1110793

[DTCwordfan]

here we are boxtops, the poop and scoop on Turnip


http://en.wikipedia.o...nd_Viscount_Townshend

Apparently he had an affinity for the ethanol and they created the term "beetroot face" for him

[boxtops]

Ah - thank you, DT!

[DTCwordfan]

the last part is like mamya's tailcocks......

[bushbaby_de]

Hi Buildersmate - thanks for the link. If you read it is says it is a legacy entry and other parts of the building have since been demolished. The legacy entry refers to a road address rather than just a room. It also refers to it being two storey so still suggests to me that this is a remnant structure of a building, rather than a single room in an entire building being listed. However I guess this is the exception that proves the rule - I'm sure we all know planning laws are full of odd historic quirks!