Manwithnoname, i was polite, but explained that i could look online and if decided to go with donating would do so, i didn't look, nor donate, even though the charity Shelter is a good one, i was also told, that these guys get paid, not sure how much, for getting people to sign up. I didn't feel pleased about the hard sell, nor would i ever speak to someone like that again. What concerns me about some of these tin rattlers is one i saw a few days ago, an asian bloke collecting for childrens education, schools, have no idea why anyone would be doing that unless its for overseas, but i didn't stop to ask. I should add i do give to charity, Macmillan cancer care, and RNLI, who do sterling work.