Listener Crossword 4142: Noye by Samuel

[Zabadak]

Is 12 across blessed with the correct clue? I've seen the same clue (31 across in this case) leading to a different answer on occasions, but I can only work out one single word answer which doesn't relate to the clue given in the online version.
Otherwise, plenty of time left for doing other things this weekend, and probably my quickest finish for a long time. An enjoyable romp, so thanks to Samuel.

[Antmark]

Probably the right phrase in the wrong language Contendo. If so, I had the same problem. If I'm right, the phrase will need the appropriate modification.

[ichkeria]

Type Your Answer Here...

[contendo]

No, Antmark, I had the right language, I was just heading in the wrong direction. Got it now. Off to Lucca for a week tomorrow, so I'll miss 4143.

[Ruthrobin]

Contendo - one of us can email it to you for you to download in an Internet cafe if you don't want to miss the weekly fix. Actually, I am pretty sure you will be able to get a Times there too.

[contendo]

Thanks Ruthrobin, but without the BRB and Bradford I will be useless, and I can't see my wife tolerating me spending hours in an internet café.

[silversolver]

Ah yes, the holiday problem. Mrs Silversolver and the kids do think it is a bit weird when I pack the Big Red Book and Bradfords into my suitcase...

[AndrewG-S]

contendo/silversolver: the chambers app on the iphone/itouch/ipad includes the full dictionary with a search function (equivalent of word wizard) and the franklin handheld has bradfords with similar search capabilities. this solves all those holiday problems of trying to sneak BRB into the bottom of the suitcase and i really would recommend them

[Clamzy]

Andrew - Would those apps run on a small laptop computer?

[TheBear69]

Clamzy - see http://www.chambersha...ectronic/index.shtml.

It has four supposed offerings:

1) The iPhone/iTouch/iPad app - you cannot run this on a laptop. I have this app and find it very limited.

2) There's something called 'WordWeb Pro' that looks expensive ($19 for the basic tool + $39 for the Chambers add-on); I have no idea if it's any good but at least it's the 11th edition. I find the CDRom much better even though it has the deficiency that it's the 9th edition (it also has the appendices and the thesaurus).

3 & 4) The links for the CDRom (9th edition) and the 'PC, PDA, Smartphone' come up empty. Not very confidence-inspiring...

[Clamzy]

Thanks TB69. I have the CD rom, but the small notebook (handy for travelling) doesn't have an optical drive.

[AndrewG-S]

clamzy, the bear is right the app will not run on a laptop, where the best option seems to be the CD-ROM

[Staurologist]

For those interested in clues with two answers, I recall, without checking the records, two double-gridded puzzles in which every clue had two solutions: one by Peeper (i.e. Bufo + Corylus) in the Crossword Club magazine and a relatively early example [doesn't time fly :>)] in the Listener, to which no solutions were received. There may be others. If I have the time, on my return from Budapest next week, I shall try to find chapter and verse.

A great effort from Samuel. Wonderful use of the letter theme, in suffering and change and in the disposition of the proverbial explanation, although not, surprisingly, in the warning phrase. The very last line of the preamble could have been improved. how about "Use Chambers (2008) as your primary reference; seek elsewhere for 6 down."?

[perseverer]

Clamzy I was able to copy the full content of the CD ROM onto a USB memory stick using my desktop PC, and then instal it on a netbook from that.

[Clamzy]

Many thanks perseverer - I shall give it a try and that would be a good solution.
I hear such a lot about these wonderful apps for Blackberry, iphone and similar and have often wondered if they could be used on a PC.

[TheBear69]

Just about any decent iPhone or Android app will depend significantly on the unique aspects of the platform; e.g. the pinch and spread gestures on the touch screen, the virtual keyboard, maybe the accelerometer (the part of the system that detects how you are tilting the device). So expecting the app to run on a PC, without a complete re-implementation, is not realistic.

Most of the momentum is in the other direction; people take popular PC apps (especially games) and figure out how to re-implement them for the iPad.

[easterfool]

Much enjoyed - finally looked in the right directions for my 2 pseudowords. What a clever lot you are - with all this technology talk. For holidays I pack the BRB, and a few more reference titles, my laptop, a good rubber and pencilsharpener, lots of spare paper and go to a place with free Wifi. If there is room Mrs EF can come too.
I wonder if I am becoming obsessive about scoring a full year right.

[dead-eye]

well done easterfool. i am definitely not looking in the right direction. having completed 4143 will give it one last stare!

[IainGrace]

Came to this late, having been on hols. Now finished with help from posts here. Not entirely sure though re the explaining word. Recommend Chambers app for iPhone/iPod Touch.

[Mysterons]

Think thievery Iain

[IainGrace]

Ah yes. Thanks, Mysteron.