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Well thanks all for a good laugh, the user name is cos i didn't realise at the time what it was for although the description "username" was a really good clue lol.I really ought to change it but don't know how. Gran the seat I have now was fitted by my husband several years ago and we have always had that trouble so was hoping this time to get it right. Oh if only i lived near BN, unfortunately I do not and all my friends are as old as me and my children live a long way away. Never mind there is nothing wrong with my present seat apart from the above, I just fancied a change. Anyway folks I just love this site I have had loads of good advice from some lovely people so thanks for taking the trouble and if i ever get it fixed i jwill let you know xx Janet.