What was the first rap record

[factor-fiction]

It's sometimes claimed that SugarHill Gang's fantastic Rappers Delight from 1979 was the first rap record but I'm sure I remember something by Parliament from 1975/76 that could be classed as rap too. I also had an Isley Brothers single (Fight the Power) that was rap-like. But it was suggested on the radio recently that the above track from youtube from 1967 is considered to be the first. What do you think? Media URL: http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/
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[factor-fiction]

Links are causing me problems today.
Here's the 1967 track

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvMBxlu62c0

[factor-fiction]

Yes, a lot of musical genres started much earlier than people generally think. Most people would say rock'n'roll started in the early 50s with Bill Haley but i remember hearing John Peel once play some great stuff from the 1940s that was also real rock n roll, and I think I heard some Blues stuff from much earlier that could also sounded as if it was from the 1950. For example I think there was song called 'rocket' that I'll try to dig out

[factor-fiction]

This is Rocket 88 from the late 1940s. Definitely rock n roll to me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvMBxlu62c0

[factor-fiction]

Try again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbfnh1oVTk0

[arrymong]

i submit gil scott-heron for discussion. i think it was 1970

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGaRtqrlGy8

[factor-fiction]

Thanks arrymong- I hadn't heard this before. It's an interesting track with good lyrics but I got bored with it before the end. I'm sure it inspired later rappers but is it rap or just spoken lyrics- or is that all rap is?

[tiggerblue10]

I've often heard that the first rapping was done by Debbie Harry on Rapture.

[factor-fiction]

Blondie may have been the first white rapper but certainly Rapture wasn't the first rap record. I recall rapture was early 80s whereas Sugar Hill Gang were 1979/80