GBH On Christmas eve :(

[chelseacc]

Me and my boyfriend and another couple went out on xmas eve just a spare of the moment thing, my bf isnt much of a drinker but did get in with the festive spirit and had more than a few (he was very drunk) at the end of the night some guy started to get aggresive and got right into my bf face, he pushed him and told him to keep his distance (maybe in not such a polite manner) but that's as far as it went after my bf was asked to leave so we did, (incident number 1) so when we left the bar we was walking to the cab office when two guys walked passed and said something rude to me, and then another argument broke out, but this time my bf tried to resolve the situation and said to the smaller guy that he rognised him from boxing and said that they would probably laugh about how drunk they were that night, then the big guy (his dad) who was like twice the size of my bf started taking off his jacket and offering my bf a fight then the whole thing escalated again! i got in between the two to try and stop mainly the man from beating up my bf, even telling the guy that my bf wasnt worth it, by this time he took a swing at my bf over the top of my head, so i moved to avoid getting hit and when i looked bk the guy had a pencil i his eye, luckliy it hadnt gone into his actual eyeball just the eyelid (which is bad enough tbf) everyone just looked at this broken pencil hanging from this guys eyelid even my bf, it was just a shock! how did it turn from this big guy throwing blows to him gettin a pencil wedged in his eyesocket?? my bf was drunk he just stood there in shock too until the police came and arrested him.... My bf is an architect student and in the process of starting up his own design business with a few friends from uni and is constantly brainstorming and sketching down ideas when he's out which is why he happened to have a pncil in his pocket, he has no previous and is not an aggresive person, can anyone give me some advice on what might happen.

[EDDIE51]

Peter Pendant That is exactly what I have been saying to her.
Only a solicitor can have access to all the full facts.

[AlBags]

I think a lot hinges on the 'pencil incident'

Look at it this way .. If anyone stabbed someone intentionally in the eye with a pencil .. you think it would just be sticking in the eyelid? Nope.

It's quite feasible for the pencil to have been dislodged from a jacket pocket when someone grabbed a jacket and half pulled it up/off in a scuffle.

Just because someone is a boxer (or some sort of martial arts king) does not mean he is guilty, either.

[Peter Pedant]

surprisingly there is a medical paper about this:

Ophthal Plast Reconstr Surg. 2010 Jul-Aug;26(4):238-44.
Wooden intraorbital foreign body injuries: clinical characteristics and outcomes of 23 patients.
Shelsta HN, Bilyk JR, Rubin PA, Penne RB, Carrasco JR.
Source

Department of Ophthalmology, Wills Eye Institute, Jefferson University Hospital, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19107, USA

[EDDIE51]

Albags, if you read all the replies by chelseacc you will see that the BF had his hands in his trouser pockets and the pencil was also in one of the trouser pockets, in other words the BF had his hands in contact with the pencil just before the fight.
It was when I saw the reply to my asking which pocket the pencil was in that I realised that it could not have got into the victims eye 'by accident' and told the questioner that the BF should plead guilty. At first I also thought that the pencil must have been in a top jacket pocket and may have accideently got into the victims eye , but chealseacc says the BF had his hands and the pencil in his trouser pockets.