Who Deserves the Credit?

[Elderman]

It is not my purpose of this to ridicule the views either of fundamentalists or of those who choose not to believe in God.
Rather, it is our hope that this will prompt you to examine again the basis for some of your beliefs.
I will present an explanation of the Bible’s account of creation that you may not have previously considered. And it will emphasize why it really does matter what you believe about how life began.
Will you trust the claims of those who say that there is no intelligent Creator and that the Bible is unreliable? Or will you examine what the Bible actually says? Which teachings are worthy of your trust, your faith: those of the Bible or those of evolutionists? (Hebrews 11:1)

[Elderman]

Why,’ some may wonder, ‘is it necessary to give glory to God? Is not God already glorious?’ True, God is the most glorious Personage in the universe, but that does not mean that he is glorious in the eyes of all humans.

[mibn2cweus]

The key to glorification of an omniscient God for His creation is an ignorance of how He did it. The more we come to understand the process by which the universe we witness today came to be as it is, the more we discover that everything is invariably attributable to and a consequence of natural processes that require no intelligent creative contribution from outside unseen miraculous forces. The better we understand the essential role God was asserted to have played in the creation of all that exists the more we come to realise His existence is neither necessary, conceivable nor rationally justifiable. It is only in an attempt to justify irrational beliefs and actions for which one finds the need to add yet another.

[Elderman]

That what you say, which is as good being blind.

[jomifl]

Elderman, you are still a few words short of a sentence, would you like me to re-write it for you.

[LazyGun]

@ Elderman - As usual, posting faith as fact.

"True, God is the most glorious Personage in the universe, but that does not mean that he is glorious in the eyes of all humans. "

On balance, god is extremely improbable, and getting ever more so. The space for a god to exist gets smaller every decade. A supernatural deity originally created by man to attempt to explain some of the more frightening events in their world, as wisdom, rationality and science have progressed, our need for such a deity has diminished. No glorification required.

[Elderman]

Well keeping ourselves concerned with the work of God’s hands rather than becoming preoccupied with human endeavors impresses upon us that God applied power is irresistible. Those works, though, are not limited to the wonderful physical works of creation in the heavens and here upon the earth. His wonderful works include acts of deliverance for his people from enemy oppressors, as demonstrated in the experiences of his ancient people.—Exodus 14:31; 15:6.

[boxtops]

Not for a lot of people in the world, it doesn't.

[jomifl]

So what about the oppressors god? surely they had one or several.

[wildwood]

The constant assertion of belief is an indication of fear.

Jiddu Krishnamurti

[beso]

A deity who inspired a genocidal massacre on the scale of the Hewbrew invasion of their "Promised Land" is not glorious in any way.

Indeed anywhere outside of that hideous book the exaltation of such an act would be howled down by millions.

Try telling people about the glorious act of the Nazi Holcaust and see how far you get. In may places it would get you imprisoned.

[venator]

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By replying to this thread, you are encouraging the originator to produce more and more of the same.

They feed on protracted, largely illogical postings.

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