decent way to get to llandudno by train.?

[ibizaboy]

im going to llandudno in july for a weeks holiday. from norwich its via chester and takes around 6 hours cross country. does anyone know a quicker route or maybe via london/birmingham.?. thanks.

[dzug2]

There's not much in it but going via London might be marginally quicker - but you can't do it as a through ticket and would have to book each leg seoarately. The trains would be more comfortable, at least as far as Crewe or Chester.

Might even be cheaper if you are lucky with advance fares

Going via Birmingham could add an hour to the journey - no point

[Buenchico]

Enter your travel details here:
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/

The results which initially come up will be on the cross-country route. (Hover your cursor over the number in the 'Chg' column to see where the changes are).

Then to select travel via London, click on 'Journey details' and 'Advanced Search'. Enter 'London' in the 'via' box (selecting the 'All stations' option). Click 'Update train times'.

You'll see that there's probably little difference in journey times, with the London route requiring more changes (and the hassle of getting across London). You'll also see that, in most cases, travel via London is far dearer (but you might happen to come across some bargain 'Advance' fares).

ANY route from Norwich to Llandudno will go via Chester (irrespective of whether you actually have to change there or not), since that's the only practical route!
http://www.nationalra...nalrailnetworkmap.pdf

Chris

[SeaJayPea]

Just put a random couple of Saturdays into The Trainline in May and they're on about a service that has just one change, at Manchester Piccadilly. Leaves at 08:57 arrives Llandudno at 16:06 and every hour thereafter. Cost is £115 return. Weekdays, same trains seem to run.

[ibizaboy]

cheers guys. done some homework and drafted up this. norwich-london £16 rtn. euston to chester £42 rtn. chester to lland, incl. total £ 58. from norwich direct is £98 and 7 hours, this way is £40 cheaper and 1 hr quicker!!