How do they get promoted?

[coyn]

Colin Cramphorn West Yorkshire Chief constable has said that after much soul searching he has concluded that he did everything he could, and he is satisfied that the two officers had the right protective equipment and back up to deal with the robbery in Bradford.

Really Colin? If that's true why is WPC Beshenivsky dead?

Let me see if I can give you a clue Colin.

Firstly two inexperienced women police officers shouldn't be partnered up, they should be with senior experienced officers, secondly they should have been wearing bullet proof vests not stab proof vests as these two women were,

I know it's a difficult concept to grasp Col but a "stab" proof vest doesen't stop bullets just knives.

Thirdly Col, officers shouldn't be sent to a gun fight unless they have a gun.

[Oneeyedvic]

Simple fact: If we stopped immigration, we wouldn't have another dead police officer.....

....sorry abut absolutely rubbish.

If we stopped immigration last year, we still could have had a dead police officer (again unless you know the people who commited the offense are immigrants who have recently come over)

The only way that this could have been prevented is by repatriation (unless I am missing something).

Isn't it easy to say that you are not racist, and this is neither the time nor the place to talk about it - I have offered to take this as a aseperate thread but you declined: http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/ChatterBank/Question169397.html

(sorry coyn for going off subject)

[spinchimp]

Ah ward-minter, you sweet simplistic soul! Yes if the people who committed this crime had not physically been in this country then this murder would not have occured. On the other hand if we had no immigration a considerable proportion of doctors and nurse who save lives on a daily basis wouldn't be here!

[Ward-Minter]

How annoying is it when folk say "I didn't say that, read the flipping thread blah blah blah blah" Well I find it very annoying and any argument appears lost. Alas read my flipping thread. There is no argument.

I know it is like saying we can avoid 100 percent of road accidents if we get rid of the car, or stop criminals reoffending by hanging them. That is my point. Simple but so true, how can you argue against it? You can't!

Yes you can argue against it politically, morally and ideologically, but on a base level I am right.

Did I really not make that clear? Is my CSE in woodwork wasted?

[Oneeyedvic]

Sorry WM - obviously you are not reading your own posts, let me make it clear for you:

At 16.12 you wrote "Then again, if we stopped asylum and immigration the poor officer would still be alive"

Why do you think these people are asylum seekers or immigrants?

[Ward-Minter]

At 1811 one eyed man I said "somewhere down the line". Obviously you only read what you want to read.

The suspects are black/asian origin. Therefore, alas, ergo, hence, somewhere down the line they were immigrants. Simple as that. I know you are an intelligent man Victor, please look "outside the box"

[Oneeyedvic]

An immigrant is someone who leaves their country of origin to live somewhere else - or at least that what I thought.

Don't see how you can do that 'somewhere down the line'

So another question - (as I wouldn't want to presume), if you are Black / Asian can you be British? And are white people who come from the Vikings in the 8th century immigrants (I mean after all they have come from another country and settled here ... some where down the line)

[coyn]

I'm sorry to be so blunt about this but I really am ******* angry about this,the f***** west yorkshire police never seem to learn from their mistakes.

[Ward-Minter]

Right one eyed man, now I am a bit pickled I will spell it out to you in basic english. These bloody country lets them in and they kill people. FULL STOP. If they don't there kids or grandkids do. Bloody get rid of them all.

Isn't it wonderful how do gooders harp on about how these bloody foreigners have less rights in the matket place and access to housing and eduactuion blah blah blah. But never mention the fact there are very over represented in the murderer stats. Bloody hell.

Alf Garnet woz 'ere.

[netibiza]

I would just like to say that we are now getting lots of immigrants from the African countries into Spain and they DO cause lots of trouble, knifings and robberies. I am not speaking against them as a whole but they do have different values and do not respect life as I hope we do.

[libertie]

Can't speak for anyone else on here.......but personally I'm getting a little tired of threads on here being used by some people to vent their narrow minded racist views!

[Ward-Minter]

well libertie without being rude I am personally offended by libertarians who try to preach their do-gooding antics everywhere. Pro rights and all that malarke and esp people who actually call themselves after vile commie propaganda tend to be little more that work shy peasants who believe the world owes them a living. Instead of going on two-bob marches and harping on about the rights of Asylum seekers perhaps they should cherish the rights of our heroic police and realise that these foreigners are the main felons in cop killings of recent years. Fact, the last 7 police killings have been by non-white or non-british people.

[brachiopod]

You really are a priceless bigoted turd aren't you, W-M?

[spinchimp]

What an appalling load of racist rubbish appears in this thread -particularly from wardminter and nebitza. Shame on you both.

[Ward-Minter]

brachiopod, I have bad attributes aswell.