A DM reader question?

[dennisb66]

In todays daily mirror a reader asks..."what part of the Union Jack represent Wales"

The flag of the United Kingdom, commonly known as the Union Jack (which derives from the use of the Union Flag on the jack-staff of naval vessels), embodies the emblems of three countries under one Sovereign. The emblems that appear on the Union Flag are the crosses of three patron saints:

the red cross of St. George, for England, on a white ground

the white diagonal cross, or saltire, of St. Andrew, for Scotland, on a blue ground

the red diagonal cross of St Patrick, for Ireland, on a white ground.

So what is the answer?

[HowardKennitby]

As far as I know Wales is not represented.

[daffy654]

Is that possibly because Wales is not actually a country?

[Celticv11]

Wales being just a principality not a country, does not need to be represented on the union flag.

[rockyracoon]

Wales is not represented, apparently it was part of the Kingdom of England when the flag was designed.

[Kiki-frog]

Wales isn't represented because when the Union Flag was first thought up by James 1 (or VI, depending on your point of view), Wales was seen as a sort of appendage of England, rather than a separate land like Scotland or Ireland. Sad but true.

[lankeela]

When I was in the Brownies we had a three piece folded card which showed you how each part of the flag sat over the previous one to get the end result.

[lankeela]

Just found this which explains the answer http://www.woodlands-...s/questions/flag.html

[Sipowicz]

A Red Dragon in the middle of the Union flag would look pretty good!

[FredPuli43]

Wales has been treated as part of England since 1301, when Edward I created his son Prince of Wales and established the Council of Wales to govern the Principality. To this day, a reference to 'England' in legal documents is taken to include Wales.
The flag was created over later time, and therefore has no speccific reference to Wales on it.

[Sipowicz]

lankeela, that link shows what I suggested, looks very impressive!

[DTCwordfan]

point one the red cross represents Wales, a country subsumed by England in the 13thC

[DTCwordfan]

well they can put Wales on when they get rid of all that blue.

[dennisb66]

Thank you for your very informative replies.

[rowanwitch]

Maybe it is time to have a new flag with the four nations in separate corners with a design of barbed wire argent between them

[FredPuli43]

Really dt? Surely the red vertical cross is St George's and the diagonal one St Patrick's ?

[Sipowicz]

When the St Patrick cross is placed on The St Andrew cross, it is not symmetrical, is there a reason for this?

[Sipowicz]

Lanklee's link has answered my question!

[Sipowicz]

lankeela, apologies for incorrect spelling of your name!