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Thans for the sensible replies, the others are best ignored. rsvp-he hasn't been handled much all, they've only had him for 2 weeks, and when my daughter went to show my grandson how to handle him, he bit her. She left him alone and tried again when she was on her own with him and he did it again. Anyway, I think in my quieter home and with more time on my part we are progressing, he waddles on to the palm of my hand and just sits there and lets me stroke him, he also takes food straight from my hand and is fine. I think he was just a frightened baby and needed time.