Work for your pension!

[droopydrawers]

As if you haven't already done so!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/.../uk-politics-20044862

People of my generation have worked from age 14/15, and now this crackpot thinks we ought to work for our pension !!

As I have said here before I worked for 42 years non stop....my OH worked for 50 years non stop except for his 2 year National Service. Thats 92 years between us. Is that not enough?

DD

[dotty.]

I'm pissed off that after working almost 40 years and payingtax and NI for most of it i still have to pay NI even though it won;t increase my pension as i have done the 30 years qualifying contributions and some

[zebo]

I wonder if on-tap baby sitting/child minding will count as community work? It'll come to nothing, just some idiot flying a kite.

[factor-fiction]

On the plus side, dotty,if you are paying NI contributions they will almost certainly buy you an entitlement to Contribution based JSA if you need it.

Anyway, the goalposts may get moved back closer to 44 years again before you retire

[Mosaic]

This is the kind of advice you'd expect from someone whose notion of work is showing up at the House of Lords, being waited on and attending committees.

[dotty.]

31st october 2021 i can retire, so i'll have 44 years contribution and more by then i reckon grrr

[ChuckFickens]

I'm already resigned to the fact I'll probably have to work until I drop.

On the plus side, it's stopping working that seems to make a lot of people drop in the first place.

[factor-fiction]

Another point dotty, not that it's much consolation I know- the amount the average person draws in state pension over their retirement exceeds what they've paid in NI

[Old_Geezer]

I try not to seem too emotional when disagreeing with someone but your description of crackpot seems very fitting. It simply supports my growing belief that those with any say (or someone's ear) so often seem unfit for the privileged position they have.

This hysteria around pensions is unwarranted. There is no full employment so if there is any work that needs to be done it can be paid work for those young enough to make their contribution to society. It is not needed to force those who have contributed to keep on doing so. As long as those in employment generate sufficient wealth to cover the nations needs, that's all that needs to be achieved. Having a larger pensionable age group and a smaller young & unemployed group than the past is of no consequence.

Wealthy folk who want to control others, forcing them to keep working on in order to satisfy their own egos should not be given the air of publicity. They should be quietly told by their friends to go home and sleep it off before they make an even bigger spectacle of themselves.

[flump1]

Well said OG

[pdq1]

Somebody has to pay the those receiving pension credit who have few stamps such as immigrants and long term unemployed with no savings. Cameron says you are both in it together. A compassionate society means you give to those destitute and paid for by those that work their guts out.

[tt6688]

how to lose thousands of votes in one easy lesson.

[douglas9401]

Lord Bichard, a retired civil servant, formerly head of the Benefits Agency collecting loot for turning up in The Lords, cash for his committee work and a bullet proof index linked pension is the very man I'd look to for a fair and balanced opinion on how to treat burnt out old farts who clog up the place. Maybe have a rotating team of wrinklies to spread rose petals before him as he processes twixt lunch and club.

[hc4361]

I suggest that everyone reaching pension age get themselves a criminal record for some petty thing. That will stop you being able to look after elderly people.

[naomi24]

OG, what you appear to overlook is the fact that many of those ‘wealthy folk’ you talk about have become so through sheer hard work – and they are often the people who are providing employment for others. If the money in the coffers wasn’t being squandered on people who have never contributed to the system, our pensioners would be able to retire and still maintain a decent standard of living – as they should.

[youngmafbog]

Good point Naomi but that does not change the fact this crackpot should be put out to grass.

I hear many of you complaining about the pensions. Lucky you, those under around 55 will have to contribute, work even longer and probably have the pension means tested. So if you saved and were frugal you will be penalized to pay for the feckless.

The answer, as OG points out, is in the young. It is morally wrong to make people work longer when we cant find employment for our young.

It's a real shame noo labour squandered all the money on trendy lefty vote buying instead of investing in real jobs (jobs in the civil service over and above the minimum required are not real jobs).

[modeller]

This is coming from a man who retired from the civil service at the age of 54 on a top level pension and is now creaming off further goodies from the House of Lords and sitting on committees .

[gness]

I had to retire early to care for a sick husband. Did this for over ten years. Then took over the care of my mother when she developed dementia eight years ago until last year when she had to go into a home.
I am now doing a little to help a friend who has suddenly become very ill with a poor outlook.
However, Barb does his shopping on a Monday so I have a few hours free then to work for the pension I paid for if this eegit has his way.
I know there are many others on this site doing their bit, and more, without having to be told do do so.

[KerrAvon]

Well hopefully His Lordship will be setting the example!

[Old_Geezer]

Hard work and wealth don't always come together. There are very many who work hard all their life and just manage to 'keep their head above the water'. Others may have wealth bequeathed to them which is unconnected to what they have contributed themselves. Those who accumulate wealth due to what they themselves have done are usually fortunate to find a niche which over-rewards them with society's wealth for whatever it is they have a talent for. Often an ability to generate nothing but merely attract existing benefits their way. I don't equate wealth with worth.

But the point that some seem to be net contributors and other net receivers, is fair enough. I don't think it should always fall on the same folk to prop the system up. Share the responsibilities and the help when needed.