The Irrationality Of The Christian God

[naomi24]

We’ve spoken about this before, but a speaker in the ‘Science Refutes God’ video that LG posted put it very succinctly.

‘God sacrificed himself to himself to save us from himself’.

Can anyone see any sense it that?

[keyplus90]

////We’ve spoken about this before,/////

......................But as my pay cheque depends upon posting on this site so I might as well......................

[Old_Geezer]

I think it possibly implies a God who is not free to do anything, that it is inevitable you will suffer in Hell for not following the true religion whether God likes it or not. Or at best one might think that knowing the outcome of every decision then maybe a God could save you from Hell but then know that the result would be worse than had they left you there.

As for sacrificing oneself, well if you know for sure life is a transitory period it's no longer much of a sacrifice is it. Just leaving by the door to journey elsewhere.

[naomi24]

Keylpus, //......................But as my pay cheque depends upon posting on this site so I might as well...................... //

Do you have anything sensible to add to this thread?

[atalanta]

Imagine god talking to jesus before the nativity.
"Right, son, I love you so much that I'm going to send you down to this earth I've made, to be born without anyone having any sexual relations, so that you can do some fancy stuff like walking on water. Then, when you've just got the hang of being human, you've got to die very horribly to satisfy me. It's all so that a bunch of chaps in frocks can spread world-wide guilt, so we can make people worship me by telling them it's because you died for their sakes."
No wonder religionists don't like logic.

[naomi24]

//Then, when you've just got the hang of being human, you've got to die very horribly to satisfy me. //

......"Oo-er! What am I saying? You ARE me! Yikes!"

[Arksided]

I'm sure the supreme being of us all that it allows us to co-exist with.. is chortling on a coffee break.

\\// live long and prosper.

[mibn2cweus]

"I'm gonna make Him an offer . . . I can't refuse." - Godfather

[naomi24]

You too Arksided. ;o)

[keyplus90]

/////Do you have anything sensible to add to this thread?/////

According to your dictionary, agreeing with you is the only "sensible" thing I believe.

[jomifl]

Keyplus, it is about time you used your finely honed debating skills to say something approaching intelligibility...or say nothing at all. :-)

[Delaval]

‘God sacrificed himself to himself to save us from himself’.

Can't see any sense in it, but if you change the last 'himself' to 'ourselves' it begins to make a kind of sense.

[naomi24]

Keyplus, nothing sensible to add then? Thought not.

[mibn2cweus]

Delaval
‘God sacrificed himself to himself to save us from himself’.

Can't see any sense in it, but if you change the last 'himself' to 'ourselves' it begins to make a kind of sense.
17:00 Sun 09th Dec 2012

About as much sense as, "God, save us from your believers!"