Divorce

[Caran]

According to this mornings paper adultery will no longer be a reason for divorce, this is because of civil partnerships. Law givers trying to draft legislation have concluded that gay couples will not be able to divorce on the grounds of adultery because they can't decide what homosexual acts constitute adultery. And that heterosexual couples won't be allowed to cite adultery if their partner commits adultery with a homosexual. So the answer will have to be that adultery no longer exists, at least in law, thus doing away with one of the Ten Commandments. What thoughts do Abers have on this one.

[NOX]

Adultery has not been a reason for divorce for years. The only eason for a divorce is irreconcileable differences. As for the Ten commandments- not something I think really benefits society in the first place, common sense does a great deal better.

[Buenchico]

As an atheist, I'm no expert on religion but I was always under the impression that the Ten Commandments were meant to be things that couldn't be 'done away with' (for those who believe in them) irrespective of the laws that men (and women) make.

For example, I'm unaware of any man-made law against coveting my neighbour's ox; does that invalidate the 10th Commandment?

I've little doubt that 'infidelity' (rather than 'adultery') will continue to provide grounds for divorce, irrespective of the exact form of sexual conduct between the relevant parties.

[Buenchico]

>>>Adultery has not been a reason for divorce for years

Check facts before posting, NOX!
https://www.gov.uk/divorce/grounds-for-divorce

[NOX]

Fair enough, I was going by what my solicitor told me during my first divorce ;/ lol

[DaisyNonna]

Irreconcilable differences? Define please. He was shagging another woman and got her pregnant? I did not want that to happen. How can that be reconciled?

[Mojo-Jo-Jo]

I think that would come under unreasonable behaviour Daisy.
I'm told you can still have that one.

[DaisyNonna]

That would make a mockery of the word unreasonable. The reason being he could not be fasithful.

[FredPuli43]

You have to show that the marriage has irretrievably broken down. But you have to cite one of the grounds given in the link, such as adultery , to do so. Even if adultery cannot readily be defined in the case of homosexuals, the behaviour should surely be viewed as unreasonable behaviour. To take a silly example, if the partner had taken to lusting, after or committing bestiality, with a pet goat that would not be adultery but the court would have no trouble finding it to be unreasonable behaviour , that the marriage had broken down irretrievably and that the wife cannot bring herself to live with the husband any more.

But there's an easier option. It is to define adultery to be any of the sexual acts as required in rape,that is penetration of any bodily orifice including the mouth. Presumably a homosexual adulterer has achieved at least that

[NOX]

Believe it or not a lot of people can forgive infidelity Daisy, sometimes even when a child results from that, so in that instance it's not irretrievably broken down.

[FredPuli43]

Reminds me of my mother, nox. When a friend told her that my father was having an affair,she replied that she wasn't worried.Asked why,", she replied that, firstly, he still came home and,secondly,the woman would give up when she discovered his physical deficiency. "And what",the friend asked, intrigued, "is that?". "He has short arms", came the reply," They don't reach his pockets"

There are some women who take a practical view of infidelity,whether it's isolated or the husband sees it as a hobby.

[netibiza]

I think adultery is considered a reason but these days a judge does not need /want to know the name of the other person.

[jd_1984]

My cousin divorced his wife because she began an affair with HER friends husband (needless to say she was off the Christmas card list in a couple of households!).
He cited this as the reason for wanting a divorce and the divorce was put through with this as the sole reason. So is adultery in itself an irreconcileable difference if the partner being cheated on can not accept or forgive?

[FredPuli43]

Yes, jd, but we don't use the phrase 'irreconcilable differences'; that's a ground for divorce in the USA; but we do require that the husband or wife finds it intolerable to live with the other because of the adultery.

[FredPuli43]

And, netibiza, there is no need for the party seeking the divorce to name the third party. The name might not be known to him or her anyway. The phrase used is 'adultery with a person unknown' and the judge is not going to ask for the name.

[naomi24]

//a lot of people can forgive infidelity Daisy, sometimes even when a child results from that, so in that instance it's not irretrievably broken down. //

... in which case they are under no obligation to petition for divorce. For those who cannot reconcile themselves to a partner's infidelity, however, citing adultery should remain an option - whatever the sexual orientation.

[Duncer]

To take a silly example, if the partner had taken to lusting, after or committing bestiality, with a pet goat that would not be adultery


Have you been following me?

[FredPuli43]

Unless you have a small beard, slit eyes, and have been eating my hedge, Duncer, no, I have not been following you