Aylesbury Prison Programme Tonight.

[Georgiesmum]

Did anyone else watch the Aylesbury prison programme tonight? What did you make of it?Are we too soft with them all?Some of these prisoners are seriously screwed up.

[sherrardk]

I'm watching it (only because we us to live in the street down from it, our house used to be (before we bought it) a b & b that visitors to the YOI used to stay at - boy, did we get some odd people knocking at our door looking for a room). I got annoyed at one stage when one of them started bleating on about how he had to have something to look forward to - millions of people have sod all to look forward to but then part of me softened (not much though).

[rockyracoon]

We did watch it, quite an eye opener really. Half of me felt sorry for them and the other half wanted to ship them off to a desert island where they can't hurt anybody.

[Stargazer]

One of them looked as though he ought to be sectioned and never let out.

[sherrardk]

The 'hunger striker' was a bit pathetic, trying to be so hard and only lasted 36 hours!

[rockyracoon]

I do wonder if they ramped up their behaviour for the cameras.

[Orderlimit]

I have no doubt that prisons are a dangerous place, but the regime is soft.

[Jeza]

I went to see someone in a YOI once. There was a boy who looked about 12 but was 16. He had killed his Grandmother because she wouldn't give him any more money.

[sherrardk]

The dirty protest one deserves to have a cork shoved up his arse (just how much crap did he manage to produce, that can't be a healthy amount).

[Svejk]

Dreadful. Strange to think they were all beautiful babies a few years ago.

[Caran]

I watched last weeks and found it deeply disturbing. They seemed to be too soft with them. Tey needed locking up in padded cells in solitary. Just watching this weeks and seems the same again.

[Dee Sa]

how things have changed from the days they wore arrows on their clothes and hard labour springs to mind.Stop the molleycoddling they are all there because they broke the law.

[Georgiesmum]

I was shocked with the one that said he didnt think he had done anything THAT bad, ONLY about 700 burglaries!!!!

[tamborine]

too much testerone & nowhere to burn off. Send 'em down the mines.

[EvianBaby]

It's the sort of thing I watch anyway but was extra keen to see this as I live about two miles away from it. It's always amazed me but this prison is situated on one of the busiest roads into town. Driving past it you just see these huge round topped walls and the classic iron doors. But it almost just fades into the background, even though it's smack bang in front of you. I saw one girl on Twitter last night say she's lived here for 10 years and didn't even know it was there.


It's really interesting to see what's going on a few feet away on the other side of those walls.

I agree to a certain extent about the 'luxuries' they get. I felt the music software was a bit too much but lets face it, a crappy old TV and some pool tables are hardly anything special. And what's the alternative? Like one guard said, if they are doing something then they're not beating the crap out of guards. And what happens when they have nothing? Surely it would just drive them more crazy than they already are. Some of them still have the ability to be rehabilitated and they should be helped.

[Kassee]

I watched iAylesbury Prison last week. But last night I watched the Magdelene Launderies on Netflix. It was so awful, I turned it off halfway thro. How soft have we become as a nation, in such short a time. Maybe these prisoners should be sent along to the Magdelene Launderies (which were like a prison) where they worked all day long, for no pay, and were beaten regularly, and not allowed to speak at all. They stayed there for life. Only these poor girls had done nothing wrong (certainly by todays standards), girls that had had a baby out of wedlock, been orphaned, one girl was just pretty.

[jake-the-peg]

Yeah - it really used to work didn't it ?

No murderers in the old days

Apart from Jack the Ripper and Crippin and the acid bath murders and the blackout ripper and .....

And the streets of Victorian England were notoriously safe after dark!


Very tempting to think that treating people harsher will break them and get them to conform because it would work with you

But they're not like you

Many, have had pretty violent upbringing and their response to harsh treatment is violence

So what are you likely to get with harsher treatment?

There are no easy answers here - some of these people may never be safe in the general population but bear in mind the prison officers.

If they have privelliges the prison officers can grant and remove those privelliges as carrot and stick.

You have to give the prison officers the tools

[Duncer]

You also need management to support staff in the application of these rules.

[mrs.chappie]

I would've made the "dirty protest" prisoner clean it up himself. If he refused, I'd leave him in it until he co-operated. Dirty ********.