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Motoring Fines.
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I don't know if this is common knowledge, I am attending a mandatory VOSA driving course this week and this was mentioned.
If you get a speeding ticket or something else where you will get a fine and points…
(1) Notification has to arrive within 14 days of the offence otherwise it is null and void.
(2) When sending off your licence and fine. For example £60.. send £65. They are not really interested in giving you points they just want your money. Because you have overpaid they can’t action the points on your licence because you have not sent the right amount so they will send your licence back + a £5 cheque your licence won’t have any points on it and as long as you don’t cash the cheque they wont pursue you for it. £5 is cheap to keep your licence points free.
If you get a speeding ticket or something else where you will get a fine and points…
(1) Notification has to arrive within 14 days of the offence otherwise it is null and void.
(2) When sending off your licence and fine. For example £60.. send £65. They are not really interested in giving you points they just want your money. Because you have overpaid they can’t action the points on your licence because you have not sent the right amount so they will send your licence back + a £5 cheque your licence won’t have any points on it and as long as you don’t cash the cheque they wont pursue you for it. £5 is cheap to keep your licence points free.
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Both common urban myths, debunked on anyone of a myriad of sites.
FYI, a NIP has to be SENT within 14 days, not arrive - a common fallicy. It can take weeks to arrive if it's a hire or company car as they have to send it first to the registered keeper - who has to then confirm driver.
For the truth on these matters check out www.pepipoo.com - fighting for the rights of the motorist (and not spreading crap like this...)
FYI, a NIP has to be SENT within 14 days, not arrive - a common fallicy. It can take weeks to arrive if it's a hire or company car as they have to send it first to the registered keeper - who has to then confirm driver.
For the truth on these matters check out www.pepipoo.com - fighting for the rights of the motorist (and not spreading crap like this...)
This has come from a reliable source, Three people in the room have said it worked for them in the past.
You can choose to ignore it if you wish and if at any time you are caught and are happy to pay the fine then crack on I don't give a toss, I am just passing on the info that I have been given today from someone in the know. Obviously you just can't help some people.
You can choose to ignore it if you wish and if at any time you are caught and are happy to pay the fine then crack on I don't give a toss, I am just passing on the info that I have been given today from someone in the know. Obviously you just can't help some people.
Douglas, Yes and it has been an eye opener all week I can tell you, if you think big brother is getting out of hand you ain't seen nothing yet as to what is coming for us motorists. I was going back on the road when my present job comes to an end in September but after this I think I will look for a new direction.
Just to add a bit of flesh to the bones:
Point 1. If you were stopped at the time of the alleged offence (rather than being detected by a remote device) there is no obligation for you to receive a Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP) at all. The police officer stopping you will (if they do their job correctly) warn you that you may be prosecuted. If you are not stopped at the time, as has been mentioned, a NIP must be sent so that in normal circumstances it should arrive with the registered keeper within 14 days of the alleged offence (with the day following the alleged offence counting as day 1). Failure for the notice to arrive does not necessarily invalidate further action though the prosecuting authority may have to show a court that they had sent the notice so that it would normally arrive in time. In either case the prosecuting authority has six months to “lay an information” before the Magistrates’ Court. This is an absolute time limit and there are no exceptions to this.
Point 2. If you send too much cash in response to the offer of a Fixed Penalty the Fixed Penalty Office (FPO) has the option to withdraw the offer and instead begin court proceedings (which they have six months to do, as above). They have the option to do this if you fail to comply with any of the conditions of the Fixed Penalty offer. The offer is a concession which is made to drivers who wish to accept guilt and avoid going to court. It is not a right and can be withdrawn. Usually they will write to you first asking you to submit the correct amount, though some FPOs may operate differently. None of this prevents the addition of points to your licence. If they were solely interested in getting cash from you they would not offer fixed penalties at all. Drivers who are sentenced in court for speeding are fined at least half a week’s net income plus prosecution costs (usually about £85) and a Victim Surcharge (now 10% of the fine with a minimum of £20). All this adds up to far more than £60.
Hope this helps to dispel some of the "urban myths".
Point 1. If you were stopped at the time of the alleged offence (rather than being detected by a remote device) there is no obligation for you to receive a Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP) at all. The police officer stopping you will (if they do their job correctly) warn you that you may be prosecuted. If you are not stopped at the time, as has been mentioned, a NIP must be sent so that in normal circumstances it should arrive with the registered keeper within 14 days of the alleged offence (with the day following the alleged offence counting as day 1). Failure for the notice to arrive does not necessarily invalidate further action though the prosecuting authority may have to show a court that they had sent the notice so that it would normally arrive in time. In either case the prosecuting authority has six months to “lay an information” before the Magistrates’ Court. This is an absolute time limit and there are no exceptions to this.
Point 2. If you send too much cash in response to the offer of a Fixed Penalty the Fixed Penalty Office (FPO) has the option to withdraw the offer and instead begin court proceedings (which they have six months to do, as above). They have the option to do this if you fail to comply with any of the conditions of the Fixed Penalty offer. The offer is a concession which is made to drivers who wish to accept guilt and avoid going to court. It is not a right and can be withdrawn. Usually they will write to you first asking you to submit the correct amount, though some FPOs may operate differently. None of this prevents the addition of points to your licence. If they were solely interested in getting cash from you they would not offer fixed penalties at all. Drivers who are sentenced in court for speeding are fined at least half a week’s net income plus prosecution costs (usually about £85) and a Victim Surcharge (now 10% of the fine with a minimum of £20). All this adds up to far more than £60.
Hope this helps to dispel some of the "urban myths".
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