Could This Be The Type Of Government This Country Needs?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319541/Farage-Sack-Dave-Ill-join-Tories-UKIP-leader-follows-election-triumph-dramatic-coalition-offer.html

/// He has seized on quirks in election law which would allow UKIP and Tory candidates to wear the rosettes of both parties. At a stroke, UKIP votes in key areas would help the Tories keep Labour out of power – and bring Farage’s dream of leading Britain out of the EU closer. ///

[mikey4444]

We shall be seeing Mr Farage playing the Boris card from now on I'm afraid.

He will take any opportunity to get his name and face in the media as much as humanly possible. We shall just have to get used to it I suppose.

[chrisgel]

Do you honestly think that the Tories in coalition with UKIP would honour UKIPS promises on the EU and immigration.
You might want to ask the LibDems what happened to proportional representation.

[mikey4444]

UKIP might be mad a box of frogs but the Tories are the closest they will get to a natural ally, so an unofficial local truce, if not a full-on formal alliance might make sense to Cameron and Farage. Both realise that Labour will almost certainly get back in power if they continue to bicker with each other. If Farage is really keen to leave the EEC, only Cameron can help him, as the Tories have already promised a referendum if they win the next election.

My enemy's enemy is my friend !

[jim360]

I think Farage has misread the situation somewhat -- a good number of those voting for UKIP were doing surely as a rejection of the current Tory party. Suddenly turning around and saying, "no, we'll help to keep them in power" might damage UKIP's credibility.

[mikey4444]

The ball has started rolling ! Front page of the Sunday Times ::

"Stuart Wheeler, UKIP treasurer has said that they would rather deal with Boris than Cameron in the run-up to the 2015 election"

An alliance would make sense for both parties, so expect to see the ball a little further down the road in the near future.

And jim...I'm not sure that UKIP has much credibility to lose.

Not quite sure either how Dave is sleeping at night at the moment !

[modeller]

I can't agree jim, all the ex Tories now UKIP supporters I spoke to were voting for the party's policy on the EU and immigration not as a rejection of the Tories . In fact they despised Labour even more so on the EU and immigration question. . Two of them said they would consider voting Labour if Ed said he would garantee to leave the EU. I wouldn't go that far as after Blair I wouldn't trust Labour to manage a church bazaar.

[Kevink]

They really are as mad as a box of frogs:

"We don't care that the economy has gone down the tube, we don't care that the NHS is on its knees, we don't care that the poor are being vilified and made to pay for the cock-ups of the rich, we don't care that British industry is suffering, that our education system is down the pan. Just as long as we don't have to see or deal with foreigners - that's what's important".

[ichkeria]

Farage doesn't evisage UKIP ever being in power. As I said before, most likely he just wants to hijack the Tory party by proxy, and statements like that would seem to support that idea.

[jake-the-peg]

ROTFLMAO!!!

I'll bet Farage is willing to so a single candidate deal!

After all as things stand he'll be lucky to get 2 or 3 seats in Westminster!

Yes absolutely the sort of government the country needif we want to be come a regressive, stuck in the past, illiberal inconsequential country of no significance.

If this deal were to happen David Cameron would be leading a second coalition government - Imagine his joy!

Remember David Cameron has said that he would campaign for Britain to stay in the EU - they would not be easy bed fellows!

[modeller]

kevink //"We don't care that the economy has gone down the tube, we don't care that the NHS is on its knees.............................etc .....//

Where's the link that UKIP said that ? ichkeria believes you . I dont ! I think they are your personal ignorant rantings. Proove me wrong .

[New Judge]

“You might want to ask the LibDems what happened to proportional representation”

Indeed you might. And the answer would be that, as part of the Coalition agreement forged in 2010 and at the insistence of the LibDems, a referendum was held on the Alternative Vote system in May 2011. The proposal to change the “first past the post” system was soundly rejected by more than two to one on a turnout of 42%. The problem for the LibDems is that the electorate does not seem too keen to move towards proportional representation. All a bit of a nuisance for them really.

Time will tell just how significant last Thursday's election results were. One thing is for sure, as Mr Cameron and Mr Clarke have recently found to their embarrassment. No good will come of insulting people who seek change but who can find no candidates among the main parties who will represent their interests. The UK electorate may well want the UK “…to be come a regressive, stuck in the past, illiberal inconsequential country of no significance.“ But they are very often better judges of what is good for them than are career politicians and if that is what most of them want then that is what they should have.

[Kromovaracun]

"The problem for the LibDems is that the electorate does not seem too keen to move towards proportional representation. All a bit of a nuisance for them really. "

They weren't keen on AV. They weren't asked about PR.

[ludwig]

No, but it won't happen, so forget about it.

All that will happen is that you'll see both the Tories and Labour talking tough about Europe between now and the next general election, because they've recognised that it's more important to people than they thought, and it could lose them votes.

[jim360]

I'll need to look at the figures before I can see where the UKIP support came from if the Labour vote is relatively flat compared with 2009, their gains can be put down to the splitting of the votes between the Tories and UKIP. If not, then I probably have misread the situation. Wouldn't be the first time...

Then again I still think that Farage has misread this. We've seen what can happen to the junior partner in a Coalition government -- so why would Farage want to take up that role? He'd get precious little of his own way and likely rather a lot of the blame when things went wrong.

[modeller]

ludvik and jim I think you are right but we need to do more than just talking tough. We need something more positive , we need to know in advance what they intend to do , not might do.

Kevink You still haven't answered my post !!
#Where's the link that UKIP said that ? ichkeria believes you . I dont ! I think they are your personal ignorant rantings. Proove me wrong . #

I have read UKIP'S policy and watched the interviews with Farage and not one of them fits your stupid tirade. No politician would talk like that .
I'm surprised ichkeria swallowed it.