Fred, I find it a shame that you can not keep your dogs under control, i blame you the owner , it is the likes of you that give me heart ache, fostering wild animals is hard, deers in perticular, do you not realise the time it takes to hand rear a deer then rehabilitate it, deers a fickle things, along with cotton tails, your post was I would say stumach churning for me. Sorry epona, x