Maiden Name On Death Certificate

[sigma]

Was the maiden name entered on a C19th death certificate.

[Buenchico]

See the answer from Col, here:
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080930142745AAa0SOL

[DJHawkes]

no it wasn't I'm afraid, only on a marriage certificate. even the entry in a burial register would give the married name and not the maiden name. It's possible these days to work out a maiden name though, depending on the information you have, perhaps from census entries where relatives were living with a family or from wills. I can give it a go for you.

[jno]

in the UK, you mean? As above. Other countries sometimes list the deceased parents.

[sigma]

Many thanks Dot. I'm trying to find the maiden name of Charlotte Bull's mother. Charlotte was born in 1829 in Ashbourne Derbyshire and married Thomas Tharme in 1847. From the marriage certificate her father was William Bull.
Unfortunately that is all the information I have.

[craft1948]

I see you have a conflict with another tree on Ancestry, they have Charlotte's parents as James Bull and Charlotte Spowedge.

[DJHawkes]

on the 1841 for sutton on the hill there is a charlotte bull, right age or thereabouts and there is a john bull at the same address and he is the son of samuel and ellen bull nee milward who married in 1813.
there is a william bull marrying a hannah corton 16 may 1825 derby all saints, on the 1841 William and Hannah are living in cubley

[DJHawkes]

.......and interestingly, the son of william and hannah bull Joseph married a mary milward....daughter of Thomas Milward.....who looks like he was the son of Richard Milward who was the father of the Ellen Milward that married Samuel Bull in 1813

[DJHawkes]

the bull /spowedge tree in ancestry has to be wrong as it is showing charlotte having a child with thmmas tharme 4 years before they married and when she was 15/16 and born in a county neither parent actually lived in.....

[DJHawkes]

on the marriage certificate for Charlotte and thmas what was her father's occupation?

[sigma]

Her father's occupation was laborer

[sigma]

Dot, how did you arrive at the conclusion that John is the son of Samuel and Ellen nee Milward.

[DJHawkes]

because I found his baptism on the IGI sigma, I think, will go back and look

[DJHawkes]

Name: John Bull
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 14 Oct 1816
Christening Place: SUTTON ON THE HILL,DERBY,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Saml. Bull
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ellen
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C05951-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 428944, 498133

[sigma]

Many thanks Dot, looks like you've cracked it.

[DJHawkes]

and this is the charlotte bull on the 1851 STILL living as unmarried with james and charlotte bull in nottingham, so it's not her that married thomas tharme in 1847
1851 England Census
Name: Charlotte Bull
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Bull
Mother's Name: Charlotte Bull
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Nottingham St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

[Franands]

Hi.. This will hopefully further eliminate the Charlotte Bull living with her parents in 1851.She was bapt 26 Jan 1806 at St Mary's Nottingham and she married John Allwood in 1851. I have her details on a handwritten family history bought to New Zealand in 1902 and I have checked the details for my own interest. Her Mother was Charlotte Spowage/Spowedge. Good Luck