Many 9/11 Tribute Programs.....but

[VHG]

As the 9/11 date (or 11/9 as we in the UK know it) comes round there seems to be dozens of TV programs on at the moment about 9/11 and its aftermath.

It is of course right we feel sorry for the people involved in 9/11 and their families who still survive.

However, because of the number of TV channels and video cameras available in that country, giving more visibility of the attack, there is a danger of giving the USA more sympathy than perhaps other countries.

Some of us are old enough to remember the Vietnam war, where America used two awful chemicals on the people Vietnam.

One was Napalm, which stuck to people's bodies and burned them. More here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napalm#Military_use

The other was Agent Orange, a chemical used to remove the leaves from trees so the enemy could not hide under them. More here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Orange

The use of this chemical has caused untold misery to hundreds of thousands of people in Vietnam since the end of the war.

Here is an article on the BBC web site today talking about the effects of Agent Orange on the people of Vietnam (a TV program is shown on BBC1 London tonight).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23632245

So while you watch the TV programs about 9/11 just remember the death and misery the USA caused to a country the other side of the world (and now condemns Syria for the use of chemicals in War!).

Sometimes you read what you sow.

[anotheoldgit]

DrFilth

/// first question i asked after they collasped was where have all the steel girders gone ? ///

I know where some went.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415868/9-11-girders-given-UK-remember-67-Britons-died-terror-attack-discovered-rusting-away-farmyard.html

[andy-hughes]

A very fair point AOG.

History books in the West will always refer to the actions of the West as best motivated and completed with minimum and regretful military force - wheras as you and I know well, that is far from the truth.

[emmie]

jtp, this was the proposed American invasion plan called Operation Downfall and the Japanese response. The American losses were also put in their millions. I have read quite a lot about this, i am no expert admittedly, i leave that to the military and to the historians..

Japan's geography made this invasion plan obvious to the Japanese as well; they were able to predict the Allied invasion plans accurately and thus adjust their defensive plan, Operation Ketsugō, accordingly. The Japanese planned an all-out defense of Kyūshū, with little left in reserve for any subsequent defense operations. Four veteran divisions were withdrawn from the Kwantung Army in Manchuria in March 1945 to strengthen the forces in Japan, and 45 new divisions were activated between February and May 1945. Most were immobile formations for coastal defense, but 16 were high quality mobile divisions. In all, there were 2.3 million Japanese Army troops prepared to defend the Japanese home islands, another 4 million Army and Navy employees, and a civilian militia of 28 million men and women. Casualty predictions varied widely, but were extremely high. The Vice Chief of the Imperial Japanese Navy General Staff, Vice Admiral Takijirō Ōnishi, predicted up to 20 million Japanese deaths.

[emmie]

i am not endorsing or saying that what the Americans did was right or wrong, they took the decisions and that cannot be undone. But from my studies, and from any number of sources, whether it was necessary to drop the second bomb, it stopped the war in it's tracks.

[andy-hughes]

"Is the suggestion that somebody removed structural beams from the building so they would collapse?"

Where on earth are we going with this?

Do you think that if some people decided to remove the central metal supports from the Towers - even allowing for the technical feasibility of such an action - maybe, just maybe, someone might have noticed the erection of two of the highest cranes in the world, and a workforce of hundreds swarming all over the Towers, and maybe, just maybe, someone might have asked them what they were doing??????????????????

This is getting surreal!

[emmie]

the suggestion being it was all an American conspiracy, which is still doing the rounds.

[keyplus90]

////What % of the dead were involved in the manufacture of agent orange?////

And what %age of people killed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and many more countries since then were involved in 9/11?

[naomi24]

Keyplus, no idea – but perhaps you should be asking how many of those people condemned the attacks on 9/11, and furthermore how many have been killed by their fellow Muslims. Islam can’t live in peace with itself, so it’s hardly likely that it can ever live in peace with anyone else.