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Q."The bible says on the first day, god said "let there be light" - but he did not create the stars until day 4; so where did the light come from?
A. "Light doesn't come from the stars, it comes from the sun - duh"
Q. "But the sun is a star, though, so where did the light come from on, ermm,day one?
A. "God is Light" ... moving on quickly :)
Q."The bible says on the first day, god said "let there be light" - but he did not create the stars until day 4; so where did the light come from?
A. "Light doesn't come from the stars, it comes from the sun - duh"
Q. "But the sun is a star, though, so where did the light come from on, ermm,day one?
A. "God is Light" ... moving on quickly :)
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How could God produce light on the first day if the luminaries were not made until the fourth day?
The Hebrew word rendered “make” in verse 16 is not the same as the word for “create” used in Genesis chapter 1, verses 1, 21, and 27. “The heavens” that included the luminaries were created long before the “first day” even began. But their light did not reach the surface of the earth. On the first day, “there came to be light” because diffused light penetrated the cloud layers and became visible on the earth.
The rotating earth thus began to have alternating day and night. (Genesis 1:1-3, 5) The sources of that light still remained invisible from the earth. During the fourth creative period, however, a notable change took place. The sun, the moon, and the stars were now made “to shine upon the earth.” (Genesis 1:17) “God proceeded to make” them in that they could now be seen from the earth.
So when you understand about nature is infinitesimal when compared with all there is to learn. As for the scope of our knowledge of God’s creative works, the faithful man Job concluded: “Look! These are the fringes of his ways, and what a whisper of a matter has been heard of him!” (Job 26:14)
Centuries later, King Solomon, an astute observer of Jehovah’s creation, declared: “Everything [God] has made pretty in its time. Even time indefinite he has put in their heart, that mankind may never find out the work that the true God has made from the start to the finish.”—Eccl. 3:11; 8:17.
The Hebrew word rendered “make” in verse 16 is not the same as the word for “create” used in Genesis chapter 1, verses 1, 21, and 27. “The heavens” that included the luminaries were created long before the “first day” even began. But their light did not reach the surface of the earth. On the first day, “there came to be light” because diffused light penetrated the cloud layers and became visible on the earth.
The rotating earth thus began to have alternating day and night. (Genesis 1:1-3, 5) The sources of that light still remained invisible from the earth. During the fourth creative period, however, a notable change took place. The sun, the moon, and the stars were now made “to shine upon the earth.” (Genesis 1:17) “God proceeded to make” them in that they could now be seen from the earth.
So when you understand about nature is infinitesimal when compared with all there is to learn. As for the scope of our knowledge of God’s creative works, the faithful man Job concluded: “Look! These are the fringes of his ways, and what a whisper of a matter has been heard of him!” (Job 26:14)
Centuries later, King Solomon, an astute observer of Jehovah’s creation, declared: “Everything [God] has made pretty in its time. Even time indefinite he has put in their heart, that mankind may never find out the work that the true God has made from the start to the finish.”—Eccl. 3:11; 8:17.
@GL "The heavens” that included the luminaries were created long before the “first day” even began. But their light did not reach the surface of the earth. On the first day, “there came to be light” because diffused light penetrated the cloud layers and became visible on the earth"
So, according to you, there was a pre-construction. preparation phase - one that is not mentioned in the Bible? ("created long before the first day began")
"But their light did not reach the surface of the earth" - Why not?
"On the first day, “there came to be light” because diffused light penetrated the cloud layers and became visible on the earth"
What was the light source for the "diffused light"? - These "distant luminaries", allegedly created before "the first day"? Where was the Sun in all this?
"The rotating earth thus began to have alternating day and night. (Genesis 1:1-3, 5) The sources of that light still remained invisible from the earth. " The sources of that light still remained invisible? Explain how that works, if they are the source of the light that allows for a day-night cycle? We know what the source of light is that creates the day-night cycle - its the Sun - so how come the Sun was invisible?
"The sun, the moon, and the stars were now made “to shine upon the earth.” (Genesis 1:17) “God proceeded to make” them in that they could now be seen from the earth."
And now you are directly contradicting your own story, set out in your own previous sentence! So lets parse all of this, shall we? According to you, God made distant light sources prior to the First Day - a preparation phase. These light sources were invisible, even though the self same light sources were responsible for the light that causes the day-night cycle? And then the Sun AND these distant light sources were not Switched On until the 4th day, which you now relabel as " the Fourth Creative Period- nice touch!" What, was God a customer of British Gas? Wanted to save on energy costs? So for 3 creative periods, earth was lit sufficiently to cause a day/night cycle, but the source of this light was "invisible"?
The inconstancies and contradictions in this retelling of the creation myth beggar belief - you could not make it up - Oh, that right - you did make it up.
More #ChristianLogic right there - I should probably send this story in to the girls from the video, they could probably use it :)
So, according to you, there was a pre-construction. preparation phase - one that is not mentioned in the Bible? ("created long before the first day began")
"But their light did not reach the surface of the earth" - Why not?
"On the first day, “there came to be light” because diffused light penetrated the cloud layers and became visible on the earth"
What was the light source for the "diffused light"? - These "distant luminaries", allegedly created before "the first day"? Where was the Sun in all this?
"The rotating earth thus began to have alternating day and night. (Genesis 1:1-3, 5) The sources of that light still remained invisible from the earth. " The sources of that light still remained invisible? Explain how that works, if they are the source of the light that allows for a day-night cycle? We know what the source of light is that creates the day-night cycle - its the Sun - so how come the Sun was invisible?
"The sun, the moon, and the stars were now made “to shine upon the earth.” (Genesis 1:17) “God proceeded to make” them in that they could now be seen from the earth."
And now you are directly contradicting your own story, set out in your own previous sentence! So lets parse all of this, shall we? According to you, God made distant light sources prior to the First Day - a preparation phase. These light sources were invisible, even though the self same light sources were responsible for the light that causes the day-night cycle? And then the Sun AND these distant light sources were not Switched On until the 4th day, which you now relabel as " the Fourth Creative Period- nice touch!" What, was God a customer of British Gas? Wanted to save on energy costs? So for 3 creative periods, earth was lit sufficiently to cause a day/night cycle, but the source of this light was "invisible"?
The inconstancies and contradictions in this retelling of the creation myth beggar belief - you could not make it up - Oh, that right - you did make it up.
More #ChristianLogic right there - I should probably send this story in to the girls from the video, they could probably use it :)
// Light, or at least electromagnetic radiation, was formed in the Big Bang in the first microsecond. The first stars appear at about 300 million years. //
That's like the opposite to how the new ECO bulbs work. The electricty hits them in the first microsecond, but they take 300 million years to produce any light.
That's like the opposite to how the new ECO bulbs work. The electricty hits them in the first microsecond, but they take 300 million years to produce any light.
It's good wheeze, this! If you don't like where the logic takes you then you just change the meanings of words to suit your view - like the lady in Citizen Kane who used scissors to cut the pieces of a jig-saw to fit.
If we can assume that 'the sun' doesn't mean 'a star' then presumably having sex with your close family (which is how Adam must have proliferated the human race) needn't be called incest. So that's all right then. Wow! A new world of villainy has just opened before me! 'Oh no, your honour, I don't call it rape/theft/blackmail. So acquit me now.'
If we can assume that 'the sun' doesn't mean 'a star' then presumably having sex with your close family (which is how Adam must have proliferated the human race) needn't be called incest. So that's all right then. Wow! A new world of villainy has just opened before me! 'Oh no, your honour, I don't call it rape/theft/blackmail. So acquit me now.'
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