Centre Of The Universe

[ck1]

Where is it - where did the big bang actually take place?

[jno]

nannybooby, that does seem to be the correct answer, as others have said.

[jim360]

There's far more to it than what suits me and what doesn't... But I thought you weren't speaking to me any more Naomi. I think it's best for both of us if we keep to that promise.

[naomi24]

Ha ha! What happened to your 'No can do'? I'm nothing if not obliging. ;o)

[jim360]

Well then, obliged me by considering that "No can do" retracted.

[naomi24]

My pleasure. ;o)

[jake-the-peg]

Gosh - what started this thread up again!

To be strictly fair Naomi I don't think I've said there was nothing before the big bang but rather the question is meaningless (If I did say that I was being lazy and I apologise) as time itself started then


I've not really changed my opinion on this and I don't think the majority of scientists have either it's just that some reasonably respectable people are considering the possibility that there was a before.

Until we have a grand unified theory we can't rule that possibility out so a fair way to procede is to ask what the Universe would look like if there had been and look for signs of it.

I think the view that time started in the big bang is still pretty much accepted wisdom

[Bazile]

I think there must have been a before .

But then , if there was a before - what was there before the before - and then what was there the before the before , before the before - and then what was there ....................... ? does it eventually loops back to nothing or loops back to the before ?

I think i'm going to have some lunch

[naomi24]

Jake, actually you did. We’ve talked about this several times. The discussions concerned whether or not something can come from nothing – you said it can and mentioned particles that come from nothing and pop in and out of existence - and if you recall, I said that whilst we might not know their source, I thought there must be one.

[mibn2cweus]

Religion is proof that something can come from nothing. The mistake is in presuming that this something amounts to anything more than speculation until such time as it is shown to be anything more than just that, speculation, at which time it ceases to be . . . religion.

Such is the presumption that the universe has a centre when by definition the universe knows no bounds from which to derive a centre. It is in fact, everything, including all that it ever was and ever will be.

Where (and when) did the big bang actually take place? It is still taking place now, here, there, and everywhere, around us and within us. It had no beginning in that it was itself the beginning of that which ensued and all that exists, seen and unseen, past, present and future.

Where is the centre of the universe . . . Where is north from the North Pole?

[naomi24]

//Where is the centre of the universe . . . Where is north from the North Pole? //

Good answer!