Another Piece Of Worthless Scum To Be Allowed To Stay In This Country.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2535719/Jamaican-crack-dealer-banned-entire-London-Borough-deported-right-family-life.html

So this particular unsavoury person is to be allowed to stay in the UK, because sending him away to Jamaica would would have ruined his relationship with his wife and children?

Why bother sending him to prison then, will the three years he might spend there also ruin his relationship with his wife a children?

Perhaps sending him thousands of miles away, would be the best thing that could happen for his wife and children?

Banning him from going back to Islington for the next ten years, can we now expect an appeal on the rights of his personal freedom to wander?

[boxtops]

why can't they consider deporting the whole family, if they are dependent on him?

[mushroom25]

if they deport him, where are the islington smart set going to get the cocaine they need for their fashionable parties?

[jake-the-peg]

why can't they consider deporting the whole family, if they are dependent on him?

Because then you are punishing innocent people for something not their responsibility.

Such rulings are protecting the familly rather than the offender.

How would you feel about being deported yourself if your spouse was found guilty of a crime?

[Kathyan]

If I was living in another coutry, I wouldn't commit a crime in the first place if there was a chance of me being deported! It seems that the rights of the criminal are put before the rights of the law abiding citizens!

[Kathyan]

Also, where in the HRA does it say that they have a right to family life in this country?

[jake-the-peg]

Talking of worthless scum here's one being let off!

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10716786.Drug_dealer_avoids_heavy_jail_sentence/

Isn't it annoying local press not showing pictures of the defendants?

How can certain AB posters know whether they're worthless scum or not unless they can see a photo?

Well I guess the name is Stewart Summerfield from Swindon and not Mohamad Khan from Luton so we can skim over it and look for something more newsworthy eh?

[jake-the-peg]

Kathyan it's Article 8

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_8_of_the_European_Convention_on_Human_Rights

section 2 says

2. There shall be no interference by a public authority with the exercise of this right except such as is in accordance with the law and is necessary in a democratic society in the interests of national security, public safety or the economic well-being of the country, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others

This shows the limits of this right - it's not an absolute right

If you've committed a crime you can't claim that you can't go to jail because it would interfere with your familly life.

When someone has completed their sentence saying that you want to deport them to protect the public would imply that you're judging them for a crime they've not committed yet!

[naomi24]

Jake, //When someone has completed their sentence saying that you want to deport them to protect the public would imply that you're judging them for a crime they've not committed yet! //

In that case, dispense with the jail sentence for immigrants and make deportation the penalty - family and all.

[Bazile]

Is he a British or a Jamaican citizen ?

[anotheoldgit]

jake-the-peg

/// Talking of worthless scum here's one being let off! ///

And where does it say he is being let off?

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10716786.Drug_dealer_avoids_heavy_jail_sentence/

/// Isn't it annoying local press not showing pictures of the
defendants? ///

/// How can certain AB posters know whether they're worthless scum or not unless they can see a photo? ///

Best not to call them worthless scum until they have been sentenced, as regards providing a photo, if that is an example of a dependant, I am rather pleased they do not, much easier on the eye for their absence it would seem in this case.

/// Well I guess the name is Stewart Summerfield from Swindon and not Mohamad Khan from Luton so we can skim over it and look for something more newsworthy eh? ///

Must admit I missed this one not because he wasn't named Mohamad Khan from Luton, but neither was Keno Forbes from London, but the fact that it was reported in The Swindon Advertiser, not a newspaper that I am familiar with I must admit.

[FredPuli43]

It's traditional. In the days when deportation was a sentencing option, the right to family life was respected, though not expressed in such jargony words. We did not deport those with families. Single men, yes, family men, no. The family men were jailed , always assuming the crime didn't merit hanging.

[anotheoldgit]

Wouldn't it be lovely if we could deport them to the British Isles, those uninhabited ones of course.

[youngmafbog]

Jake, if someone is British then you cannot deport them, regardless of their name. Rather looks like you are deliberately trying to mud sling there rather without reason; as usual.

OOG, these rulings always amaze me, I wonder how many visits he must make to his family once out, (I doubt he will be living with them).

[ToraToraTora]

Yuman rites? PMSL, anything but, what about the rights of normal people to live without pond life like this walking about? Doesn't come into it with our right on Islington coffeeshop set does it. As i've said many times we need human rights what we have is subuman rights at the expense of humans.

[TTG]

The Lib Dems will block any attempt to change laws that allow criminals to stay in the UK and escape deportation. Until the next election, expect more cases like these.

[ToraToraTora]

no ones talking about changing or blocking laws, it's the way that judges put the Subhuman rights ahead of the Human rights that needs looking at.

[dave50]

So he actually found a woman prepared to marry him and bring his children into the world? I suppose she must have thought he was a good catch with good prospects. Some women seem to have no standards or possibly no self esteem if they think they have to settle for a low life such as him.