Sellotape At School

[Matheous-2]

Can't believe the school incident hasn't been discussed here!

Does anyone feel the teacher should be sacked for doing this?
I can't help thinking it was a last resort to carry out this foul deed! I suppose she could have gone to the headmaster, but if think she should keep her job.
What do you think?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2573069/Woman-teacher-suspended-TAPING-10-year-olds-mouths-giggling-class.html

[ummmm]

Sqad...they do deal with on the spot. They'd be sent to the cooler and I'd get the phone call after lesson.

[RATTER15]

Sqad, the pupil should have been removed from the class if necessary, I am sure teachers are taught to deal with such situations without abusing them?

[Sqad]

ummmm/RATTER.....well there is clearly some confusion here as the teachers, that i have spoken to, feel that this system isn't working. the pupil refuses to leave the class and is often backed up by the parents.

[gness]

I once took a group on a weekend of adventure and fun....well that was the intention.....and we weren't paid for this remember.

I was standing near a stone wall when for no reason one of the kids tried to make a break for it....god knows where to.
He threw himself at my stomach, crashing me into the wall so badly I needed medical attention.

Do you know what annoyed me more than anything else? The non school workers who said......Ohhh..he wouldn't do that to me.....I'd soon have them under control....I'd soon make them behave.........Really?????

[craft1948]

I used to be a youth club worker and was once suspended for 4 weeks for physically restraining someone's 15 year old darling when he was trying to smash up a television.
I was sent for some re-training.................I left the service within a year.

[Mamyalynne]

Having brought up two rather feisty young ladies, I have had my fair share of reports from School - I have never argued with the sanctions dished out.

On one occasion after my eldest reduced a very young RE Teacher to tears (with words) I marched her into school the next day and demanded she be made to apologise in front of the whole classroom, she did.

[gness]

I couldn't, Chewn.....some little sod in Cookery class nicked it.

[RATTER15]

craft, this is why we now have these laws, whilst you probably done your best at restraining the youth, some heavy handed guy who wanted to prove a point would cause the same lad some serious injury by restraining him. I have been taught to physically restrain individuals without harming them, it takes a lot of training and knowing the person that you are restraining, if not, let the lad smash the TV and get others out of the danger zone and call the police.

[pixie373]

Exactly ratter.
sorry sqad, just been to the dentist. If my child told me that they'd been shouted out by a teacher, my first questions would be "why? What did you do?" and that would be a discussion i have with them. I have taken my daughter into school to apologise twice to teachers and my son wrote a letter of apology to one when he was at Junior School.
But there are two issues here- the other being inappropriate behaviour by the teacher, so while i wouldn't go to the press, i would inform the school that their teacher is having trouble handling situations properly.
It's not true to suggest all parents think their children are perfect.
Sorry, gness. I do sympathise with your position. Undoubtedly difficult. Having worked myself with children, teenagers and adults with mental health problems, i understand what challenging behaviour is like.

[ummmm]

I just feel at times that some of the older generation have our children written off as halfwits with no manners and the only reason they are like that is because we don't hit them.

There isn't one bad egg between my childrens friends...

[sunny-dave]

I agree entirely ummmm - the children of my friends are pretty much 'good eggs' too.

But I think there's an element of self-selection there - would you (or I) be friends with someone who had children who (mis)behaved as badly as some of the instances quoted here? I suspect not?

No one is seeking to blacken the reputation of a whole generation of young people - just to reflect what many of us have seen at first hand, which is that there is a ever-growing pool of recalcitrant children in some/many schools.

They make life an absolute nightmare both for the teachers and support staff and also the children who do want to learn - and the parents of some of these children are effectively complicit in their behaviour.

[cassa333]

I bet the parents outrage keeps the children in this case worked up in a lather for longer than they would have!!

I wonder if the parents conveniently forgot that their precious little bundles of school age joy were probably being little *** and disrupting the education of the other kids.

Did this happen in a fit of uncontrolled bad temper or did it escalate because the disruptive kids that wouldn't let the others learn (it is a school after all) were goading each other on so they could wear this particular badge of honour?

Whats the betting that some of them will play on this for a good while, get more sympathy than it warrents and get away with more just to appease the parents?

[gness]

Do you know, Ummmm....many....probably most... of the children whose parents gave us stick for trying to instill some sort of good behaviour were children who were hit/smacked at home....regularly and sometimes badly.

There was so often the taunt of.....Go on then...hit me...hit me....my Dad'll sort you......we can sue you.....almost as if the child wanted the better of someone who couldn't react like their parents....with a clip around the ear.

That's bloody sad....and we did bear this in mind.

We didn't want the power to smack.....I've never done that with my own let alone anyone else's child.....that's wrong.....but a bit of support from parents to get a child to want to behave and learn....and the child knowing we had that support...would have been a god send.

[Matheous-2]

Gness, - I do see things from your point of view having worked in the field, and I commend you and ALL teachers/staff who have one of the most difficult jobs there is....my hat off to you!
I really don't think the teacher should lose her career, instead perhaps training and some sort of yellow card in lieu of tape!

[ummmm]

And the naughty kids in my school were more likely to have come from a house of hitters.

When hitting is the way to discipline, imo, it stops the talking, the discussion, the explaining. It's quite sad...

You hit a child enough and it loses it's impact. Tell a child you're disappointed in their behaviour and it stays with them...

I know someone who smacked their child no matter how big or small the misdemeanor. So why bother making an effort if you're going to get a slap anyway?

[pixie373]

I agree, ummmm. The "I'm disappointed" goes a long way...

[starone]

I tried teaching in a school once (I usually did evening classes, which I enjoyed). I lasted one term. I did not realise how awful children could be. Never again, and I do not begrudge any extras teachers get, believe me they need them. I can quite understand this teacher snapping.

[sherrardk]

I can't believe that some people think she snapped/had a hissy fit and so it was ok to do what she did. If this was someone working in a care home and they had 'snapped' and done this to an elderly person everyone would be outraged.