Sharia Law

[Farriercm]

What exactly is Sharia law?,and why is it practiced in Manchester , and Birmingham?

[naomi24]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1578018/What-is-sharia-law.html

Sharia courts do exist in the UK and deal mainly with domestic issues, but their rulings have no substance in law.

[ToraToraTora]

It is what the ROP would like to impose on the rest of the world. Essentially a literal application of the utterings of a madman.

[black_cat51]

whatis the ROP?

[Brenden]

Religion of peace

[kvalidir]

I wish people would stop using that ROP thing, just say Islam- it confuses everyone.

[Brenden]

We have no idea what goes on in Sharia courts but bet your bottom dollar it is not in accordance with the law of this country.

[whirlyhurly]

These medieval laws & courts are quietly and slyly, being accepted as the norm. Very worrying for the future here in UK. People are being far too complacent.

[woofgang]

Sharia committees in the UK have no legal standing whatsoever. people who go to them for sharia decisions do so of their own volition. They may promise or swear to be bound by the sharia committee decision (not "court of law" in the UK) but it has no legal standing or leverage. Where they make decisions that are contrary to UK law, then the decision is null.

[modeller]

woofgang // that are contrary to UK law, then the decision is null //

It doesn't matter whether it's contrary or not ! It's not legal in a UK court .

[hc4361]

It runs on similar lines to Beth Din, the Jewish courts.
There is nothing wrong with a group of people, whether they are united by religion, an association or business, having their own system of rules that they choose to adhere to and administer themselves as long as those rules do not contradict the laws of the land.

For example, a couple who believe in fairies are in love and want to get married. They can have a fairy wedding if they wish, they can sign the fairy register and have the marriage recognised as binding by other fairies. It will not be a legal wedding under UK law, they will have to have a least a civil wedding officiated by an official Registrar.

A good article here about religious courts in the UK:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7233040.stm

To say that sharia law is practiced in Birmingham and Manchester is a bit of a bold statement. The vast majority of Muslims have no problem applying the rules of their religion to UK laws and don't wish to impose those rules on non-Muslims. Sharia law concerning divorce can be adhered to in the UK but the divorce won't be lawful unless proper divorce procedure is applied and a court grants the divorce absolute.

[emmie]

we should have no Sharia law, no Beth Din, no other laws that apply anywhere other than those made here, legal, binding, as been pointed out, and evidence provided these are not just for marriage disputes, business matters, the documentary i think the BBC did on this may have been a one off but it did highlight that women do not necessarily fare well
under Sharia Law.

[janbee]

Sharia law has no place here or anywhere in the west or any civilised society.

[emmie]

it is here, and not something that should be.

[youngmafbog]

It is what will eventually curtain your freedom in the UK Farriercm.

I hope you dont drink, are not gay and are happy sticking your bum to the West 6 times a day while someone swings a cat over a loudspeaker and like stoning women.

[emmie]

this is the programme i watched

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01rxfjt

[woofgang]

none of those things are law in the uk. they are agreements between consenting parties. i do agree its a misnomer to call them courts and laws as in the uk they are not.

[New Judge]

The notion that these "courts" (I won’t put it in inverted commas any more) are simply arbiters of private disputes which the parties have agreed to abide by is very misleading. It gives the impression that all the parties are always willing participants and are more than ready to abide by the decisions of the “elders” rather than take the proper course of action. There is no doubt that women in particular suffer disproportionately at the hands of these courts which are dominated by men. Islam’s view of women as simply men’s child bearing chattels does not really lend itself to proper justice being dispensed. Many Muslim women are bullied into “keeping quiet” or referring to the Sharia Court process matters that those of other religions (or none) would not hesitate to have dealt with by the proper authorities.

There is no place for anything like Sharia law in the UK. I accept that it is very difficult to eradicate but no encouragement or even recognition of decisions made under it should be accommodated here under any circumstances.

[viv38]

young at 8:53 for best answer !