What Can You Do If You Have Evidence That The Prosecution Lawyer Has Lied In Court? Thanks

[Mike2771]

Hi I have proof that that the prosecution lied in magistrates court to get them to give a heavier fine. Can any1 advise me how to deal with this? as I can't afford a solicitor thanks

[Mike2771]

This case is still ongoing for me but I can't get legal aid and I can't afford a solicitor

[factor-fiction]

I'm confused by this. You were put on trial together but he has already been fined and your trial is a month away. Have I understood correctly?

[Mike2771]

Do you think that it will prove that the the case it's self could be full of lies if I prove that they have lied bout this when really they didn't need to?

[factor-fiction]

No, I think it will help if you point out in court that they've made a mistake, but I don't think it will result in the whole case collapsing

[factor-fiction]

I don''t think he has a solicitor, divebuddy. But the thread is a little confusing to me so I'm not absolutely sure

[Mike2771]

To factor-fiction yer they put us in court together but we weren't together. So he pleaded guilty cause he was but I weren't as I had only had a two min chat with him on the beach then drove off, so I pleaded not guilty but I'm worried because I have been told that they nearly all ways win cause the magistrates just believe them and don't care that they havnt got evidence

[wolf63]

Do you have an alibi? If you were somewhere else surely somebody will have seen you. Do you have GPS on your car that can show that it (and you) were not at the scene of the crime.

[Mike2771]

I have three witnesses that can confirm that I weren't picking in the closed part of beach but the fisheries are saying they observed us Witch they never. They have no evidence and they had a camera on them so If I was picking there they would of taken photos, does any1 know if they can convict me with no evidence of me picking? And will the solicitor be in trouble for lieing about the beds being closed for e.coli?

[sandyRoe]

The solicitor won't be in any trouble. He is presenting to the court the evidence he's been presented with.
If you've been charged then somebody is going to tell the court that they saw you or else there'd be no case.

[sandyRoe]

You'd think if you were out on an open beach raking up cockles that it would be easy to get photographic evidence.

[Mike2771]

Exactly, thing is I was driving off when they were driving on this is why they don't have photos but because I had a few buckets of cockles on Witch I had picked on the open part of the beach there either assuming I picked them were they say or they just want a conviction to scare people and this is why they are saying they observed me, but why not take photos if you were observing me. I don't understand the law but how can they convict me with just there word if I have witnesses who seen me picking them in a different place to what they say. I would of thought that they'd need evidence? But maybe not

[factor-fiction]

I'm still puzzled about a few things, including why you don't have a solicitor. I assumed everyone charged with an offence could get a solicitor, although maybe not the one of their choice

[EDDIE51]

You say the lawyer lied that the beds were closed due to e coli, but what proof of that do you have? He may have been told that the reason was e coli and genuinely believed that. In that case he was mistaken but not lying. You would need to prove that he knew the real reason and yet gave a false reason to the court, as I see it that would be very near impossible to do.

[Mike2771]

I'm sorry I'm confusing u all, the 1st thing is the beach is over 7miles long and only about half a mile of it was closed to cockle gathering. I had gathered were the fisheries have no jurisdiction so I was well with in my right to have taken the cockles. but I had then driven down to closed bed to have a chat with a guy I new that I had seen drive past so when the fisheries drove dwn they seen me coming of there so they took us both to court saying we were together, so iam not guilty that y they have no evidence I was picking there or we were together but there assumed this. I can't get a free solicitor because it's not in the interest of the public and the only thing that can happen for this offence is a fine. I have proof from the environmental health that the cockle beds were not closed due to E.coli and the bed was actually closed until June the 14th for small cockle. The fisheries are the 1s who tell the public the reasons why the bed is closed that is why it is obvious there solicitor was lieing to get a greater fine. environment and them work together to make sure there is not high levels of E.coli there and there weren't at that time.so they could not be mistaken they have taken two years to take me to court and the solicitor went out of his way to bring it up, so if he's not lieing his clients are.

[EDDIE51]

Your trial has not come up yet, so as you were not cockling in the closed area you just have to state that in court and force the fisheries to prove the cockles you had were from the closed area. Stick to your story and insist that they prove you wrong.