It Appears We Have Been Told A Lie, I Wonder Why?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2712683/How-Mary-Seacole-saint-Florence-Nightingake-smeared-twisting-history.html

[naomi24]

sp, //Just because this professor and the Daily Mail have taken one view, doesn't necessarily mean that all others who have written about Mary Seacole is a liar.//

And neither does it mean that a black woman who worked in Crimea was another Florence Nightingale. She wasn’t.

Barack Obama, President of the most powerful nation on earth; Condoleezza Rice, former US Secretary of State; Kofi Annan, former Secretary General of the United Nations; Nelson Mandela, Jesse Jackson, and the aforementioned Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks …. to name but a few. Can’t see much evidence there of your perceived ‘'indentured agricultural field management staff'. SP, you don’t only insult white people with your unfounded accusations – you insult black people too, but you can't see it. You’re sickened? Me too.

…And speaking of chimes….. just a word of warning.

“It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen …..”

It can and does happen - if we allow it to.

[sp1814]

naomi24

Re-read my post where I mentioned slaves.

Then re-read your post of 17:06, and the please tell me your thought process. Because for the life of me, I don't see the connection.

[sp1814]

naomi24

You wrote:

"And neither does it mean that a black woman who worked in Crimea was another Florence Nightingale. She wasn’t."

Says who?

Are you saying that what you believe from your studies into Mary Seacole is 100% correct, and that there is absolutely NO room for argument?

I just want to hear whether what you think is fact, and that anyone else who's has an opinion which differs from yours is wrong (or as AOG alludes to in his question, 'a liar).

Are we liars? Or just poorly educated?

[naomi24]

sp, Do you mean the bit where you said …

//I think it's dangerous to show black people in a good light, or to acknowledge that any black person deserves to be mentioned in the History curriculum, unless the topic is slavery,// ?

I don’t see the connection between that and the people I mentioned either – which is precisely why I mentioned them.

I don’t think there is any argument that Mary Seacole wasn’t another Florence Nightingale, but if you know she was then you’ll be able to tell me what social reforms she achieved that at the least equalled those of Florence Nightingale, and you'll no doubt show me the evidence.

[whiskeryron]

One of the things that has always bothered me about learning at school is that the teacher was taught by someone who was taught by someone ad infinititum, all of these teachers will probably put their own slant on the subject they teach so how in heaven's name do we ever get the real truth ? It is the same with newspapers, again when you read the news how does anyone know the actual truth, I despair.

[DumBumBrum]

Outrageous. If that Seacole woman gets a statue, in order to satisfy the 'we must integrate immigrant minorities into British history' lobbyists, then Nicola Adams should have a 10 metre statue erected where ever SHE wants. That's proper man and you can't get that wrong. Florence nightingale on the other hand, should receive a posthumous GM, made a baroness and her existing heirs should be welcomed at the palace to receive the honours, then off to reveal a GBP1million statue of the lady outside the place where she died, with the inscription: 'for mankind she lived, for mankind she worked'

[Zacs-Master]

Nice sentiment DBB. Nicola Adams isn't an immigrant so I don't think that part of your post holds water.

[sp1814]

naomi24

Ha ha ha....

The most confusing thing I've read on AB all year:

"I don’t see the connection between that and the people I mentioned either – which is precisely why I mentioned them."

Anyway, we are off out to a 'night barbecue' (whatever that is).

Enjoy the rest of your Saturday!!!

[naomi24]

Sp, you really don't see the irony there? My, you are confused! Enjoy your evening.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// But then again...hey ho...doesn't really matter. Opinions are like anuses. Everyone has one. ///

Why did you choose that particular anatomical comparison?

[scooping]

Now we believe the blessed Daily Mail...(further to earlier whinges). The Left love all this BS about Seacole who, like Nightingale, was a flawed character.

[scooping]

Personally, I prefer the viewpoint that we are all sinners. If we could just celebrate the good that people did while, also, giving a balanced picture of their failings. wouldn't have these arguments.