Darling V Salmond

[BlueToffee]

Anybody watching?

The more Salmond shouts down Darling, the less he has to say.

Please my Scottish friends, vote NO and don't let this clown take power.

You'll regret it.....IMO

[DTCwordfan]

So you are advocating for a second referendum to ratify the treaty?? That means some hell of a well-read electorate and I don't think this is feasible.....

[2sp_]

Ed agreed with me. swoon

[DTCwordfan]

However, the Quebecois have gone half way to that - just google their 2005 referendum - and a far more intelligent question than their 1980 one, which was essentially the one the Scots are being asked and went nigh on 60% No.....

[AB Editor]

Do you mean 1995 DTC, couldn't spot the 2005 one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_referendum,_1995

Look at that voter turnout! I hope, regardless of whichever way it goes, there's a solid and valid turn-out for the referendum.

[DTCwordfan]

"Do you agree that Quebec should become sovereign after having made a formal offer to Canada for a new economic and political partnership within the scope of the bill respecting the future of Quebec and of the agreement signed on June 12, 1995?"

This really got them into the meat of the agreements rather than pussyfooting around them, as Salmond has done, .....however it was rejected but ever so close. Next time around, they may get there.

[DTCwordfan]

sorry 1995....duh.

[AB Editor]

"So you are advocating for a second referendum to ratify the treaty?? That means some hell of a well-read electorate and I don't think this is feasible."

Not really advocating anything (if that was a response to my post). But I think getting fixated with what the "deal" will be before it's even known whether there will be a "new deal" at all might be jumping the gun a bit.

This is a bit like all parties having to add "liberate Scotland from the terrible British chains"/"Shh, be quiet up there!" to their manifesto for the coming years. You don't expect a manifesto to manifest itself exactly, but you hope the intent is carried through.

[AB Editor]

(and, yes, the Quebec question is much better put).

[DTCwordfan]

Maybe it is a two or three stage process to get there.....interesting that Quebec has largely stayed mum since 1995 despite it being so close, it couldn't be due to the strong economic growth that Canada has seen under its conservative government and the enigmatic Stephen Harper? Surely not.....

[Mags22]

Only listened for a few minutes till all the bickering started, and like you,Blue Toffee, can't vote because I'm in England, but would definitely say NO , though my idiot self would like ' to be that Nation again' the logical side says no,

[QueenBea]

I struggled to keep watching to the end of the debate. I found Alex Salmond to be overbearing, rude, aggressive and not the Statesman I would want to represent me as the face of Scotland. What is it about SNP supporters that they are equally mouthy and noisy? I went to a local meeting the other week genuinely wanting to find out about both sides of the debate as I will have to vote in 2 weeks' time. Not only did I not get proper answers to my questions from the SNP Westminster MP, but for every bit of politcal-speak and rhetoric that came out of his mouth he was loudly cheered while people stamped and clapped. It was quite intimidating so I will not be voting for Independence.