Real Justice

[sir.prize]

Often we hear where justice appears to be lenient in its dealings with the bad guys. It is therefore pleasing to hear that these two evil individuals have lost their full term appeals and will die in prison. Should this be the outcome more often?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11200579/Murderers-Jamie-Reynolds-and-Anwar-Rosser-lose-whole-life-challenge.html

That's a lot of porridge.

[anotheoldgit]

Good news indeed, but one has to ask why aren't all such killers given the same sentence, that being that they are never released and must die in prison?

[jno]

because not all killings are as brutal?

[ToraToraTora]

bang on Mlud....
....next stop the European Court of oooman sm3gging rights! eh! no doubt some money grubbing lawyer is already on the case.

[andy-hughes]

From the point of view that the judges appear to have taken - that these men still pose a real threat to society, then I am entirely in agreement with their life terms.

I don't take any pleasure from the fact that these men are locked up - it doesn't bring their victims back, or deter anyone else, and I try very hard not to allow my instincts as a parent to overide justice and substitute revenge.

[Baldric]

Good result imo!

[anotheoldgit]

jno

/// because not all killings are as brutal? ///

The secret is in the words "why aren't all such killers"

[Zeuhl]

valid question aog

can you reference any "such killers" (ie where the brutality and the circumstances are equal to these two) and where a full life term hasn't been applied?

[ToraToraTora]

harry roberts?

[ludwig]

// I don't take any pleasure from the fact that these men are locked up //

I do, and I don't think that makes me a bad person either.

[jno]

how many such killings are there? How many such killers aren't locked up for good?

[Zeuhl]

/harry roberts? /

Good call T3

It could be argued that H's crimes were part of being a 'professional criminal' rather than gratuitous and sadistic crimes against children; but the difficulty is trying to compare one type of s h1 t with another.

HR's 30 years was in actuality 48 years inside demonstrating that 'soft' sentences aren't necessarily so - and as he is on his last legs it was as near as dammit is 'Whole Life

[andy-hughes]

ludwig - "// I don't take any pleasure from the fact that these men are locked up //

I do, and I don't think that makes me a bad person either".

Absolutely not ludwig - I simply have to post as I feel, but I am never in the business of trying to make anyone see things my way - even though some people on here think the opposite!!

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[youngmafbog]

//I don't take any pleasure from the fact that these men are locked up - it doesn't bring their victims back, or deter anyone else//

Maybe not, but it certainly stops a repeat offence.

I personally also do not take pleasure in such people being locked up, I would prefer to see them doing the Saddam shuffle.

[andy-hughes]

youngmafbog - "I would prefer to see them doing the Saddam shuffle."

Nice!