How Long Before A British Jihadist Takes Us To The Echr?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30041923
Good idea Dave but I fear the friends of Jihad will be against it!

[Zeuhl]

/Errr....how would you know?/

so svejk

how many women and children do you think have been killed in the UK by returning 'jihadists'?

[Svejk]

ah, I see, only British women and children count for anything.
You'll have to forgive me, I was thinking of the poor blighters in Syria and Iraq, etc.

[Zeuhl]

/You'll have to forgive me, I was thinking of the poor blighters in Syria and Iraq, etc./

That's very nice of you svejk

but if you followed the thread properly you will find it is focused on the threat posed in this country by returning fighters and was prompted (in the OP) by the News item that they will be excluded from returning

Despite that, your concern for the Syrians and Iraqis is noted

[Peter Pedant]

It all depends on whether the measure - preventing someone having a passport - amounts to making someone stateless

The UK agreed fifty years ago following the chaos that stateless people caused everyone after the war, not to do so.

Take it from me - it is one of the raft of united nations treaties


way way before the UK accession to the ECHR

If you think that having a passport is a fundamental right, then the courts of the european union are for you - they do as well.

The European courts are different to the ECHR - but they both have an 'E' in them

[Peter Pedant]

Damn New Judge got there before me.

NJ - scouting the difference between the european court ssystem and the ECHR ( of which we are voluntarily a member I think )
may well be a court too far....

[Svejk]

And if you'd read Fender's post properly before making your comment, you'd realise he meant it wasn't fair to commit terrible acts abroad and then come back here and disappear.

[Zeuhl]

svejk

the context for the whole thread is the threat posed here by returning jihadists. if you haven't followed that just admit it instead of trying to weasel out of it.

i appreciate that fender's post is barely literate and therefore open to interpretation:

/id make the stateless, and frig the lawyers and the human rights brigade
how many murdered women children men etc, in the most barbaric ways.
come back and you disappear, extraordinary rendition/

but nowhere does he say / it wasn't fair to commit terrible acts abroad and then come back here and disappear./

i think you have also misinterpreted his reference to 'disappearing': it his his notion of what should be done to them

/extraordinary rendition/

i.e.

[Svejk]

I don't want to side-track the thread further. So you're right, I'm wrong, OK.
Re. the OP. I think this is yet another pre-election 'promise' that can't/won't be kept by Cameron.