Is This The Start Of The Struggle Against Islamification?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30685842
Is the west finally waking up to what is happenning? Will this lead to more serious action?

[TWR]

Gromit, 18.05 Tues, Nice Building, would you like some idiot wailing in the Vicinity of your house? I'm sure I would not.

[TWR]

18.05 Tues

[sp1814]

naomi24

Your summary seems to be based on guesswork, rather than a close relationship with some of the mates I have.

It's an opinion I do not share, but only because I've known the people I refer to over a number of years.

[sp1814]

naomi24

Incidentally - one of Muslim mates is married to a white girl.

Both families were extremely worried about it would be perceived by their respective wider families.

Nothing really happened.

They have three beautiful kids now.

Not convinced he could be included in idea of 'the generic Muslim'.

Do you tell your Muslim mate of your concerns? I think it might help alleviate your worries if you did.

Then again, she might scream "Death to the infidel", and completely ruin my argument...

[ToraToraTora]

That's ok SP but if it was a muslim girl married to a non muslim bloke, the standard approach of the R0P is for her family to horrifically murder her for family "honour".

[ToraToraTora]

retrocop, bang on again with your 19:47 post, you already have BA on this post you also have 2nd and 3rd BA!

[Gromit]

TWR,
I do not think the 'wailing' is allowed. I live near a mosque, and they do no broadcast the call to prayer. I cannot be sure in other areas, but I have not heard of complaints about noise.
I also live near to a church, and the bell ringing from that is a real nuisance, especially when they are 'practising'.

[retrocop]

Gromit
What would you expect in Great Britain, but I agree it is sometimes difficult to realise this is still supposed to be Great Britain. I think that is what this thread alludes to doesn't it?

[naomi24]

sp, my argument isn’t founded upon guesswork, but upon experience and simple logic . Do you really think if the demographic changed your mates would opt to continue to drink with you? They wouldn't be doing it for long. Apart from the fact that there would be nowhere to drink, self-preservation would take precedence.

I don’t need to tell my Muslim friends of my concerns. Several of them fled Cairo when the Muslim Brotherhood came to power. They know all about the perils of fundamentalist Islam – and I’ve no doubt your mates do too.

[retrocop]

"Wailing" is not allowed at the moment to call Muslims to prayer. You are talking about the present. This thread is about Islamification in the near future,which if allowed to succeed, then your annoyance of campanology will be long forgotten because there may be plenty of wailing to replace it!!!

[Svejk]

There's something wrong with the Pegida 'strollers'. They don't loot the shops, they don't fight with the police, hell, they don't even drop litter.
Perhaps some of our left-wingers could go over and show them how to do it properly. (before the German government resorts to planting agents provocateurs)

[sp1814]

naomi24

You wrote:

"My argument isn’t founded upon guesswork, but upon experience and simple logic."

And my counter-argument is based on friendships I've had going back years, and like yours - coupled with logic.

You're using the experience of your friends, not mine. It's a little presumptive to assume that your experience is applicable to every Muslim in the UK.

Wen you say, "Do you really think if the demographic changed your mates would opt to continue to drink with you? They wouldn't be doing it for long. Apart from the fact that there would be nowhere to drink, self-preservation would take precedence."

I think that you are talking about a situation where the UK became an Islamic state. Is that where you were going with that?

If so, I have to say that sounds a lot like absurdum ad reductio.

You may as well argue that if all horses were replaced with unicorns, there would be many more injuries at Ascot next year.

Absolutely - but it's not a strong argument because of the unlikelihood of it happening.

Winged horses - yes, because they exist...but unicorns do not.

[Peter Pedant]

No I think it is the start of Polarisation - I am not sure that western society is being islamified

perhaps it would be a good think if it were

[retrocop]

Gromit
Please indulge my curiosity though I apologise to TTT for wandering off thread a bit.
Does the church and the campanologists therein whose practising cause you annoyance pre date your birth and/or you taking up residency in that particular locale and more to the point, I suppose,did the mosque pre date your birth or is that a fairly recent addition?

[Svejk]

The RoP have just butchered a few people in Paris. Unless they claim it's nothing to do with religion which is the current BS they keep feeding us.

[naomi24]

sp, a ridiculous argument? Why? I understood we were discussing the Islamification of Europe. Complacency has created the situation we have now. Never say never.

Svejk, ‘they’ will.

[sp1814]

You were referring to how my mates would react to a hypoth...

No...let's draw a veil over this one.

[naomi24]

Yes... in the time honoured manner. ;o)