Retrochick

[stuey]

Or anyone else familiar with china/porcelain markings. Would you have any information on this mark. I THINK it's pre-war. http://i62.tinypic.com/xkw0tg.jpg

[stuey]

Brilliant research, Peaspeculiars and DTC...Excellent: they are the same. I see that the term "art deco" is used in the description. I thought that the asking price would have been higher than that, not that I want to sell them though.

[Peaspeculiars]

here's some more of the same design on ebay - Still no closer to the truth about the date stuey, but take a look at the picture of the tea-cup from the set - when held to the light, a lady's face appears. Do you have any of the cups?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Satsuma-ware-Japanese-tea-coffee-set-original-antique-with-Geisha-Girl-in-base-/321635799720?pt=UK_Antiques_Asian_Oriental_Antiques_ET&hash=item4ae2fcd2a8

[Peaspeculiars]

Ah, just realised, not exactly the same, but similar.
right folks, early start so off to my pit - Hope you get to the bottom of it you two (I'll be looking in tomorrow to see)
Night, night :-)

[stuey]

I have two cups. They are quite translucent; however, there isn't a lady's face showing up at the base...Just the trade mark.

[stuey]

And I'm off across the field soon. Thanks...We're on a roll.

[DTCwordfan]

Very similar marking to Maruni & Co Satsumaware - the Made in Japan being the unknown

http://gotheborg.com/marks/satsuma.shtml

[stuey]

That appears to be quite a comprehensive site, DTC: you must know a lot about the subject in order to navigate around it...Very complicated. Anyway, I'm off across the field now and will check in tomorrow. Cheers:)

[Captain2]

I liked that ebay posting by Peas.

Firstly the description starts 'A stunning, rare, antique....' but in the title part they say they have '2 available' so not quite so rare.
Then they say they have plates to match on separate listings.

What it is is that they have an incomplete dinner service that wouldn't sell so have split it up into small sets. I should know, I've done it when we went to Auctions, did Antique Shows and stood on local markets.

The Geisha Girl image is a good selling point but quite common and appears in what is known as Tissue Paper Porcelain.
Looking at Stuey's picture, the china looks fairly 'heavy' and quite modernish. To be honest I think that Japanese pottery would only have a print on the base in Japanese only if pre war. That's my twopenneth worth anyway.

[stuey]

Captain2, the US, and perhaps the UK, passed tariff acts as far back as the late 1800s that products imported into the country had to be marked with the country of origin in English.

[Captain2]

stuey
The rule of thumb, for UK, I was given is
Pre 1890s - anything goes
1890s - If made in England, items had to be stamped 'England'
1920s - If made in England, items had to be stamped 'Made in England'

Grey area - somebody ruled that if another country wanted to export their wares items had to be stamped 'Foreign' - don't know when that was though.

[stuey]

As you say, it's a very grey, although very interesting also, area.

[stuey]

One interesting story about product labeling concerns an actual Japanese town named Usa:


"There have been false claims that products made in this town and exported to the US in the 1960s carried the label "MADE IN USA", for it to appear as if the product was made in the United States.[1]"