Ipcc Investigation Into Savile Fails

[Gromit]

An IPCC investigation into North Yorkshire Police has decided there is no case of misconduct to answer. Apparently the Officer did a great job of investigating Savile. He just didn't bother submitting a report, which may have helped future investigations.

// A detective failed to submit an intelligence report about Jimmy Savile and an ex-mayor after allegations were made against them, a report has found.

It stated the officer "should have submitted an intelligence report about Savile in 2002, based on his enquiries, which may have helped future investigations".

"While there are learning points to take from the report, it is also balanced by acknowledging the officer's tenacity and competence in dealing with serious matters."

The IPCC investigation concluded the detective sergeant, a constable based at Scarborough/Filey CID at the time, investigated "diligently and professionally" in relation to both cases. //

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-33428170

Seems a bit odd?

[jno]

I don't know. What would an intelligence report have said? "I looked into this and found no evidence"? To have kept such a report on file could in theory have counted in Savile's favour in future inquiries.

Of course, it might also have shown the detective wasn't quite so thorough as the police now say he was.

[Milvus]

I agree with Gromit. I don't see how diligence and professionalism, tenacity and competence equates to not bothering to file the results in the proper manner

[mikey4444]

The Police have already serious admitted failings in their dealings with Savile and Jaconelli in the past and although this Officer didn't follow procedure, I can't see any point in him being overly castigated here. Lets hope we have learned some lessons here.

[Orderlimit]

The article is stating the officer failed to report JS intel, not that 'he just didn't bother submitting a report".

Here is the IPCC report into the alleged mishandling of information by the officer, if interested

https://www.ipcc.gov.uk/sites/default/files/Documents/investigation_commissioner_reports/An_investigation_into_alleged_mishandling_of_information_by_DS_A_0.pdf

[Gromit]

Thanks for posting that Orderlimit,

The conclusion seems to be tha DS A worked hard, but failed to share what he had learned.

// Recomendations:
DS A is an officer who has assisted the IPCC inquiry throughout. Whilst his performance in certain areas may be questioned, it is evident that he has also displayed qualities of tenacity whilst investigating serious matters.

North Yorkshire Police should consider whether there are grounds to deal with these matters using the Unsatisfactory Performance Procedures. //

Also interesting that a lot of that report is redacted.

[Milvus]

He should have recorded either a potential crime or the intelligence (paragraph 161 onwards. He did neither at the time thus removing all intelligence from being shared. How this can be showing diligence and professionalism, tenacity and competence beats me

[Gromit]

Milvus,
It does all sound conteadictory. Especially as they recommend North Yorkshire Police consider dealing with DS A for unsatisfactory performance".

[Peter Pedant]

whereas poor Dr Ceri Brown gets suspended for tailing to report Dr SHipman giving the wrong patient the wrong drug

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/GP+suspended+over+Shipman+morphine.-a0138034496

ho hum twas ever thus

[Gromit]

// failing to report giving the wrong woman the wrong drug //

That is a grossly misrepresentation of the facts,

// Dr Brown hid crucial details about drugs given to the 47-year-old woman - known only as Ms A - from her relatives, one of whom was a GP, the GMC's fitness to practice panel was told.

Against medical guidelines Shipman gave the woman, who had asthma, a single injection of 20milligrams of morphine causing her to stop breathing.

He continued: "What matters is what is recorded in hospital records at the time, which we submit has been seen by Dr Brown and Dr Husaini, that the GP had in effect administered a huge overdose of morphine to a patient. The received dose was grossly excessive.

"Both knew that the administration of morphine [by single injection] had caused Ms A's respiratory arrest, and thereby had put her in a permanent vegetative state."

She was rushed to Tameside general hospital but remained in a vegetative state until she died 14 months later on April 21 1995. //

Also, not sure how it is relevant to Savile?

[jno]

so the cop was given a direct order to submit information, and didn't. Sure sounds like misconduct, to my layperson's eye.