Relativity / Worm Holes

[Zacs-Master]

Supposing worm holes do exist, would it take any 'time' to travel through them?

[jim360]

It depends on whether a wormhole is "tunnel-like" or not. If it has any sort of size then it would take time to travel through. If instead it's a "contact point" of no length between two otherwise separated points in space then no, it would be effectively instant.

I'd say yes is more likely.

[Old_Geezer]

I would guess it would depend on how fast you moved.

In the Sci Fi films/series you get a few seconds of pretty tube-like views. So I guess they do.

I await the maths & physics experts but I suspect you'll need to find a stable one and try it.

[Old_Geezer]

Ha ! How did Jim sneak in there ?

[Zacs-Master]

Thanks Jim. But how would that time be measured, relative to em...relativity I.e. To a person on earth..

Incidentally OG.....question inspired by the film 'Interstellar' (3 hours of my life I'll never get back!)

[Old_Geezer]

You would be in your own time frame. It's how it seems to pass for you that is important. I don't think distance is a factor in time expansion/dilation. Acceleration (or is it velocity ? Darn I need to re-read relativity yet again) would be a factor.

[woofgang]

As I understand it (ha ha which i don't of course) the answer might be different depending on whether you are the traveller or the observer.

[jim360]

I figured it would be easier answering from the point of view of the guy travelling through the wormhole, since -- in principle -- his point of view is the most important. If it takes him some time to traverse the wormhole then pretty much everyone else looking should see him take time to traverse it. If it takes him no time at all, on the other hand, then it could still be that outside observers see him take some time to pass through, so things would become more complicated in that instance.

Anyway, I don't really know is the answer, and would have to do some research. And I don't really have the time to do that at the moment, I'm afraid.

[cupid04]

I can't do links but enter:- Hakan Nordkvist on You tube and see what you think. I read about him in 11th June copy of Chat [page's 48 and 49].
He was allegedly doing some plumbing under his sink and entered one of these worm holes and met himself in the future. Hopefully there might be copy and link on line, I'm not sure....

[tonyav]

This one, cupes ?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBUv4j3DINE

[Zacs-Master]

Jim 10:35,

I thought you (and everyone else in this particular example of the Multiverse) might not know. Many thanks for your sensible contribution tho.

[cupid04]

tony av it looks like pic I have in magazine in front of me. I haven't looked at you tube link yet, just copied it from magazine.

[Zacs-Master]

Cupid, I used 'popular search engine' and it came up with something about him disappearing up his own U-bend so I thought it not really relevant to my question.

[cupid04]

Just telling you what I read Zac, this man allegedly found wormhole under his sink...whether you believe it or not is up to you...;-)

[Zacs-Master]

erm....ok. (?)

[jim360]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that he didn't.

[Zacs-Master]

No of course he didn't.



It was in his garden shed.

[I_Hate_Infinity]

Cracking question if i may say so. The philosophy of physics is my fav. Trekky and Dr. Who fan my whole life and I always pick up on the inconsistencies, but never thought of this. I guess if we accept Einstein's (as yet not disproved) theories about time and space we must accept that time is relative and therefore the passengers would perceive a period of time for the travel, however if it were possible to observe one end of the wormhole and the other with synchronised clocks, it would appear to the observer that it was instant... Or would it be the other way around... Difficult but beautiful question Zacs. More please

[I_Hate_Infinity]

btw Tonyav... heard about that case. Could be a great internet hoax but I'd like to believe in 40 years time he know's he will meet himself and get some extensive footage of it

[I_Hate_Infinity]

Sry for this third post but there is also a case of a man teleporting across the world in the 1600's. Must we exclude all cases as non-sense?

http://www.historicmysteries.com/gil-perez-and-his-spontaneous-teleportation/

IHI

[Hypognosis]

@Zacs-Master

Good Question. To paraphrase a certain D.N. Adams (*)

"You thought it was tedious, spending 20 hours on an aircraft, to get to Australia (or vice versa) but that's just peanuts, compared to space. Listen..."

per Old_Geezer's reply: there's yer answer - it's all about Hollywood whizz-bang special effects and multi-coloured tube interiors. Feast yer eyes.

Any Farscape fans about?



* I really must stop stealing from his oevre and his general mick-taking of our corporate culture.