Can Anyone Help? Looking For An Example Of A 11+ Exam From 1970

[piggynose]

I would like to show my girlfriend what we had to pass to get on in the world, to be honest i cant remember anything about the exam. its all a blur.
thanx in advance

[Mosaic]

The questions appeared to cover reasoning, reading skills and some numerical skills. For example, I recall one question on how to cut a square cake into 16 equally sized pieces......and I remember only one kid in my class got it....Sean Ferme, where are you now? You had to draw a sketch of how it would be done.

Then there were questions along the lines of 'Mr Green sits to the right of Mr Brown. Mr White sits between Mr Black and Mr Brown. List who sits where from left to right'. These used to really worry me because I never could tell left from right with certainty.

Then there was the 'dog is to lead as horse is to.......' (reins)

An article here refers to a book http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1030673/Could-pass-11-plus-Exam-papers-used-1950s-puts-family-test.html

[piggynose]

what kind of child passed this? I remember 2 mates, who passed, both were equally dim as each other, so whats that make me? i even had to help the one lad with his homework when we were 13, remember i was the secondary school kid and he was the grammar school kid, lol.

[frugalfred]

http://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/advice/sample-11-plus-papers

The above link will give some idea, but not from 1970.

[Mosaic]

Piggynose, your point is exactly the reason why it was decided to drop selection at 11. It upset and damaged many people who simply - as people do - developed at a different pace. In addition, the 1930s-1950s research into IQ is fraught with bias and falsifications, and yet this is what the 11-plus and multi-tier school system was based on. Remember the grammar schools, 'technical' schools, and 'secondary moderns'? I have taught many adults who even in retirement are hurt by the label of failure dished out to them as kids. I'm not saying that the comprehensive school movement in the UK was any improvement, but its foundations were based in a genuine desire to encourage rather than discourage all children.

[Bathsheba]

I have to admit the 11+ and the Cycling Proficiency Test are about the only things I ever passed.

[atalanta]

I had to take three papers : English, Maths and a general paper. The sums got harder as the questions went on. Far more boys than girls got grammar school places, since there were many more places for boys than for girls. In some education authority areas, boys got into grammars with only 70 percent, whereas girls need something like 85 percent. So a dim boy could get a better education than his smart sister. By the way, my brother failed his, and he has a Mensa-quality IQ

[jennyjoan]

I will give you an example the ususal maths, english, french, irish, algebra, domestic science (COOKERY) and art.

Coming out of class Remember all the girls all screaming about the scene of the Flight in the art department so some of them drew a flight of birds flying away from docks etc.

I *** my self as I thought it was the Flight - yay ha - it was the flight.

I am not a good drawer but I drew like a boxing ring with two men with gloving gloves and wee faces (audiences ) I was right and passed the test.

[jennyjoan]

sorry ^^^^^ it was the FIGHT