Lgbt ...

[bednobs]

When (and why) did T become allied with LGB? As far as i understand T has nothing to do at all with sexual orientation, so it seems to me to be a curious choice to stick together with LGB - you might just as well say LGBD (disabled) or LGBC (chrstian). Was there some kind of big survey or conference where T petitioned LGB to be able to join them? I don't mean the previous in any disrespespectful, but i am genuinely puzzled.

[gangesboy]

in the 1990's apparently
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT

[Zacs-Master]

Many variants:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT

[jim360]

I suppose it does fit in with the whole spectrum of things different from what's more common, and certainly transgender people can also suffer from discrimination and rejection in the same way that gay people do. So as a support group it makes some sense to join it all together, even though gender and sexuality aren't the same thing.

[bednobs]

as i said though, the same could be said about disabled people (different to the "norm") or Christians, or labour supporters :)

[Zacs-Master]

Yep, I want a B adding for Bald!!! And I'll scweam and scweam and scweam if I don't get it.

[Old_Geezer]

No Zacs. You must be discriminated against and rejected as bald becomes the last great minority.

[bednobs]

ok, so are we agreed? LGBTBDCLS

[brionon]

I'm really getting old-I didn't understand any of that bednobs !

[jim360]

Yes, bednobs, it occurred to me after I'd posted that I'd managed to avoid answering your question entirely! :(

They are, at the very least, somewhat related, as gender identity and sexual identity are in the first place often linked together by people as one and the same, even if they actually aren't. And, in a crude (and not always accurate) way, both typically involve what you do, or want to do, with what's inside your pants...

Also the "T" in LGBT often covers multiple gender-identity-related aspects, eg transvestism and so on, so it could be regarded as the sort of "anything that's different from heterosexual and cisgender" part of gender and sexual identity. I think they do belong together, sort of.

[Jackdaw33]

It's not quite as simple as that:

http://tahoesafealliance.org/for-lgbqtia/what-does-lgbtqia-mean/

[LewPaper]

I didn't understand the question!

[Peter Pedant]

The only places in public the T could drink or associate in public were th e gay bars or pubs and so it seemed a natural progression


I find meeting fairly large men in women's dresses and being told it is nothing about sex - erm pretty hard to swallow

[Peter Pedant]

Lew the q is "why do T associate with LGB when one is to do with sex and the other isnt ?"

[mibn2cweus]

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ok, so are we agreed? LGBTBDCLS
10:38 Mon 14th Sep 2015

At the very least I think the autosexuals should be recognised. :o/